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Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#38776: May 9th 2019 at 5:59:27 PM

A long while ago I liked to call them "the Bang Gang," partially for the rhyme and partially as a pun on "Gangbang."

EDIT: Hell of a thing to top the page with.

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on May 9th 2019 at 5:59:44 AM

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#38777: May 9th 2019 at 6:01:03 PM

So you get a base or something eventually, right? I tend to hoard and I don't want to end up encumbered a lot of the time.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Dhiruxide Since: Dec, 2016
#38778: May 9th 2019 at 6:05:16 PM

Okay I remembered... well nothing a simple google fix can't do and checking wikia, but the Vault is Vault 11, the one with a voting system and sacrificing fellow vault dwellers each year and if they refused they all die. Thing is... there was no need to do that in first place.

Speaking of vaults, what are your creepiest vault experiences?

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#38779: May 9th 2019 at 6:06:22 PM

You can rent a room in Novac. And you can store your stuff at Doc Mitchell's in Goodsprings, or that one police station on the road to Primm that has a bed and a water fountain. Eventually you can get a suite in the Lucky 38 — that tower on the Strip from the opening cutscene.

[up] Gary. Forever Gary.

Edited by Unsung on May 9th 2019 at 7:06:50 AM

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#38780: May 9th 2019 at 6:06:48 PM

[up][up][up] Yeah, there's a couple but the main ones IIRC are the Novac Motel Room and the Lucky 38 High-Roller Suite.

EDIT: [up][nja] Also, HAHA, GARY

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on May 9th 2019 at 6:07:36 AM

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#38781: May 9th 2019 at 6:47:52 PM

So I went to the NCRCF looking for a new sheriff for Primm but couldn't find him. Killed a bunch of Blast Gang members and got lots of karma, though. Ended up just reprogramming the local robot to be sheriff to finish my quest.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Dhiruxide Since: Dec, 2016
#38782: May 9th 2019 at 6:52:54 PM

Speaking of robots, I still remember that Fisto robot...

I totally did not assume the position

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#38783: May 9th 2019 at 6:57:26 PM

[up][up] The guy you were looking for is the one in a cowboy hat who doesn't actually attack you.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#38784: May 9th 2019 at 7:00:28 PM

I might have killed him during the confusion, then. Not that it matters since there's a robot sheriff now.

Edited by Karxrida on May 9th 2019 at 7:00:54 AM

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Savaget1337 64th Successor (Don’t ask)
64th Successor
#38785: May 9th 2019 at 7:03:40 PM

The vault in 3 where hallucinations suddenly occur made me jump a few times back then.

If you have a problem with Hokuto then tell it to me!
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#38786: May 10th 2019 at 6:15:12 AM

Vault 88.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#38787: May 10th 2019 at 9:40:09 AM

I usually get the NCR to control Primm.

Lavaeolus Since: Jan, 2015
#38788: May 10th 2019 at 10:05:01 AM

I know a lot of people who go for Meyers, but his history of, ahem, hurrying up justice turns me off. Ultimately I'd rather let a few criminals get away than risk the dangers of planted evidence and people killed on a hunch, even assuming no innocents get killed by accident. Mind you, I'm not sure putting law enforcement in the hands of single-minded robot is much of a good idea either.

Still, I tend to go with Primm Slimm over NCR; partly just because I mix up the ending faction on a whim each playthrough, and partly because I feel bad about putting the town under martial law.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#38789: May 10th 2019 at 10:22:17 AM

They seem happiest under Slim. Sure, maybe a few criminals can outrun him. But they do run.

Edited by Unsung on May 10th 2019 at 11:25:04 AM

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#38790: May 10th 2019 at 4:45:13 PM

Meyers for me all the way. If I have to go to the NCRCF and kill Eddie, Scrambler, and the rest of their mates, it's always more efficient to do more than one quest completion at a time whilst there. Though given the mods I use I sometimes fail about three quests as soon as the last bullet rips through Eddie's centre of mass...

Quick question, does anyone else make a point of harvesting the various Radscorpions that are in that valley behind Goodsprings Cemetary during the early game as a way of getting some good XP or am I the only nutter that likes squishing giant bugs?

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#38791: May 11th 2019 at 12:12:09 PM

I find I get all the scorpions I need if go through Hidden Valley. Plus I find leveling too fast too soon is more of a problem than not in these games.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#38792: May 11th 2019 at 12:28:57 PM

For early game xp you're better off discovering new locations

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Dhiruxide Since: Dec, 2016
#38793: May 11th 2019 at 1:24:31 PM

What's best way to deal with Cazadores early game? I got my shit fucked up by them whenever I had misfortune encountering one.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#38794: May 11th 2019 at 1:35:20 PM

Avoid them. They're there to serve as a beef gate

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Lavaeolus Since: Jan, 2015
#38795: May 11th 2019 at 2:29:26 PM

If you can, crippling their wings can be pretty useful. Antivenom can cure their poison. Note that they don't take extra damage from headshots, and apparently crippling their antenna will frenzy them (make them attack anything they see). Finally, the true ultimate strategy I usually use, for all non-DLC enemies: just get Boone or Veronica to handle them.

But yeah, at least in the early game you might just want to try and avoid their ire.

Edited by Lavaeolus on May 11th 2019 at 10:36:29 AM

Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#38796: May 11th 2019 at 3:04:42 PM

[up][up][up]The best way to deal with cazadores early game is to not deal with them. Like [up][up] said, they're a beef gate to keep new players following the "tutorial path" as I call it — following the main roads counter-clockwise until you get to Vegas, encountering easy quests and being introduced to the major factions and overall layout of the map along the way.

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on May 11th 2019 at 3:05:50 AM

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#38797: May 11th 2019 at 4:36:47 PM

Always be crouching and routinely check VATS. Cazadores are no threat if you stay alert and don't let them get close.

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#38798: May 11th 2019 at 5:47:14 PM

I just cheat and mod in some really nice automatic weapons. You do get some of those later in the game without mods but I prefer to explore at my own pace now rather than wait at beef gates, especially ones guarded by giant stingy tarantula hawk wasps, and the best way to do that is extremely high levels of firepower.

Other than that, shoot their wings off and keep shooting at them until they die, but be careful as they never travel alone.

Dhiruxide Since: Dec, 2016
#38799: May 11th 2019 at 5:52:00 PM

Thing is, I happened to accidentally piss ofg even when I tried to be cautious and keep distance, forcing me to reload.

Bad luck, huh? Do they have like a set distance they can travel to and not go further, past that distance and force them to go back to their designated area or something? Like a limit how much they can roam, that stuff.

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#38800: May 11th 2019 at 6:07:57 PM

Have a look at the Nukapedia page on Cazadores, it'll do a better job of giving you an idea of what they are and how to kill them:

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Cazador

Their Perception stat is quite high, ranging from 7 to 10 for the Legendary versions, but I think it's actually much higher in practice as they will see you coming.

Edited by TamH70 on May 11th 2019 at 2:08:29 PM


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