One Piece

True, that scene with Luffy and Blackbeard was great.

Of course, this scene is also great.

On the other matter, you know what just occured to me?

We still don't know what happened to Jinbee and Sun Pirates. And considering how last chapter went...

...I smell another fishy rescue and I'm not sure how to feel about that.

• EDIT* Oh hey, pagetopper! Nice!

Edited by jouXIII on Oct 12th 2019 at 2:06:05 PM

Anybody planning on seeing Stampede? I got my advance ticket a week ago for the 26th, and unless a bunch of people decide to buy their tickets the day of the showing, looks like me theater will be mostly empty.

I plan to go see it. I heard the plot is mostly fanservice fighting but the animation is supposedly even better than the Dragonball Super Broly movie.

Edited by Moth13 on Oct 12th 2019 at 8:48:12 AM

Would seeing Stampede be all right for me (I just started the Skypiea arc) considering I already know about the time skip and Franky and Brook or would I be too confused? I like the novelty of seeing anime movies in theaters.

Edited by LordVatek on Oct 12th 2019 at 1:19:28 PM

1. Just a quick ‘‘‘hypothetical’’’ question; what do you think would happen if, for whatever reason, Luffy adopts O-tama as his daughter, ‘‘‘hypothetically’’’?

2. What were the One Piece battles in which Luffy received very severe injuries, endured a very brutal battering and/or was so close to death?

Edited by srebak on Oct 13th 2019 at 7:46:31 AM

I think maybe.

Considering its a fanservice movie apparently it most likely won't contain anything really spoiler heavy.

Well the fanservice involves tons of characters showing up who wouldn't have appeared yet at the time of Skypeia. But then, I don't think they're plot relevant mostly, just there for quick fight scenes.

Vs Magellan at Impel Down comes to mind.

Edited by Moth13 on Oct 13th 2019 at 11:01:01 AM

double post

Edited by Moth13 on Oct 13th 2019 at 11:01:14 AM

People mention Crocodile among Luffy's hardest fights, and while Luffy did have it rough fighting him, I always felt like Lucci pushed him the farthest of any pre-Sabaody opponent. With Crocodile, it was more that Luffy had to fight him three times, but that third fight wasn't TOO crazy brutal. With Lucci, on the other hand, it looked like Luffy was going to lose like 3 or 4 times before he finally won, and his final move was basically just "I'm going to punch you, and I'm not going to stop punching you until you lose consciousness or I do".

I see people saying that Lucci suffers from power creep really bad, and while I kind of agree, I also think he's potentially the strongest person Luffy beat pre-timeskip, just speaking in terms of raw physical strength. I honestly don't know who I'd back in a fight between pre-timeskip Lucci and post-timeskip Vergo.

Actually, never mind, I forgot about Vergo's full-body Haki. Yeeeeaaaaah.... Still, I don't know who would win between Lucci and Hody.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Oct 13th 2019 at 10:16:00 AM

The entire crew also got shrek'd at Sabaody, but not quite in the "beaten half to death" way.

And at Marinford, he wasn't physically broken, but he was mentally broken.

Crocodile was his first big loss in the story, Crocodile basically killed Luffy twice, and Luffy got lucky either because someone else was there to save him, or he got lucky with a big water shot.

Lucci pushed Luffy further than he ever had before, but a lot of Luffy's damage there was self-inflicted since he wasn't used to Gear Second yet.

Magellan then trounced Luffy which required Luffy's most intensive round of post-fight recovery to date.

Post time skip, Luffy hasn't really been really beaten up besides the two times he was captured by the two Yonkos he's been fighting. Even then Kaido just OKO'd him and chucked him in a cell, and Big Mom's family punching him up after he beat Cracker.

Well, Katakuri did give him a very nasty beating, arguably even worse than Lucci

English Dub trailer for the movie.

Huh how far is the English dub for the show?

Probably at Punk Hazard if I were to hazard a guess.

English dub got to the end of Fishman Island but has been MIA for over a year now.

Wow, God's an asshole.

Also I don't think that Luffy being saved by a lightning strike at Loguetown was foreshadowing to him being immune to Eneru's attacks, but I choose to believe that it was.

I don't know that it was foreshadowing specifically, but I can totally belive that Oda intended for Luffy to be immune to electricity all along, the lightning strike was the first hint of that, and he was planning the "Luffy is immune to Enel's lighting" twist since at least the start of Skypiea.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Oct 15th 2019 at 5:04:55 AM

A bigger question, I think is whether Oda planned to introduce Haki the whole time. There are scenes you can use to make excellent arguments either way.

At the very least, he had to come up with something for Luffy to actually punch Logias.

Yeah, there's only so many times and so many ways that Luffy can beat Logias by using their convenient elemental weakness.

It's why I've always personally regarded Haki as more Nerf than Buff. Outside of fights with Logia and Katakuri, most of the post-timeskip fights can go exactly the same way they did without Haki as they did with.

Conqueror Haki really is just to wipe out mook.

I think he came up with the concept of Haki very suddenly, probably around Sabaodi, and even then it wasn't still set how they work (Armament Haki turns body part black but it doesn't happen before the timeskip, yet at Marineford everyone should use it). The first true hint of Conqueror's Haki is when Luffy scares Duval's (rembember him? The guy who looks like Sanji's old wanted poster) buffalo.

Although, to give the Marineford arc some credits, there is a nice example of foreshadowing of how observation haki can predict the future, when Luffy instinctively predicts Mihawk would've cut off his hands.

Btw, I think he came up with the idea of Haki, especially Armament Haki, because, on the long run, Logias would've been too broken. I think it was one of the things handled the worst in the series, but I understand that without it it would've been worse

I agree. Logias are still portrayed as rare in the series. However, they tend to be as said as broken pre-timeskip. So they did need a patch to knock them down a bit.

I think he had in mind some kind of 'spirit power' that later became Conqueror's haki since the beginning, but he only added Armament later to deal with logias and decided to reuse Mantra as Observation while he was at it.