Persona series

I dunno, I routinely get him and Todd confused for one another. There's a slight difference in their voices I've learned to listen for, but I still occasionally get tripped up.

I'm 100% aware Vic was Junpei though.

Edited by stargirl93 on Apr 16th 2019 at 10:23:16 AM

IT should be noted Vic was primarily removed from Funimation and Rooster Teeth. Apprently Viz has no problem since he was able to finish his role as Rohan in Jojo's dub.

Since Persona games aren't Funimation or RT, I don't think he'll be removed as Junpei.

I mean I'm pretty sure the Jojo dub was done before all this stuff came to light.

...

<Doesnt' know how to feel>

It's ok, it's a very complicated situation.

I've opted for "He's good at his job, but very much a scumbag."

I won't boycott anything he's in for the sake of the other people who worked on it, but...yeah.

I generally only boycott stuff if the staff who worked on it was in some way abused or exploited, like, well, like pretty much every AAA game that is released nowadays.

There's exceptions to every rule, of course, but as a general guideline, I prefer to keep in mind that being a good professional and being a good person are very much not the same thing.

The only thing that Mignogna is a part of that I'm really attached to is Fullmetal Alchemist but the Manga is best version of it anyway so it's a non-issue.

On an unrelated note, there is no female Joker. There is officially no reason to think that mystery girl is anything other than the Marie of P5R.

I really like that Joker's post battle in Smash is setup like Persona 5. That's cool attention to detail.

Who/what was "Jane," then?

@lordVatek: nope. I thought so too, but he just tweeted about finishing recording his final lines. And this was long after all of this started.

Well damn.

Ann is part of Joker's moveset and the Mementos stage. It was probably just her.

Man Ryuji why you gotta dunk on of the best Persona (as in literal Persona, not game) of all time? :/

I grew up on Vic, and came to view him as one of my favorite dub actors no matter what role he played. So I was pretty upset and disappointed at him once the news broke out. I'll still watch whatever he was a part of in the past, because enjoyable anime is enjoyable regardless, but I'm not interested in hearing him in future projects.

Edited by VeryMelon on Apr 16th 2019 at 8:27:49 AM

Yea, regardless if he still gets work or not, his reputation is basically dead lol.

Ann only appears in Joker's Final Smash, and "Jane" was listed exactly as an alt is.

Edited by Konkfan7 on Apr 16th 2019 at 11:15:15 AM

The Weinstein Effect has really made me wary of admiring anyone to be honest.

...something that obviously ties into Persona 5 as well.

At this point the main problem with Vic is his Goddamn annoying-ass fans.

I was actually harassed by one of his defenders right on this site. Kept PM’ing & insulting me despite me warning them I’ll call the mods if they don’t stop.

Had to call the mods to get them to back off.

Also here’s hoping that Kamehameha Con gets some major support pulled from them for going back on originally not having Vic there.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 16th 2019 at 8:17:21 AM

Were they specifically tied to Joker?

Because if they weren't I suppose they could be an unannounced DLC.

Now on the gameplay: I am liking what I'm seeing and it turns out they even incorporated the rest of Joker's team in a way! They even included the snazzy victory poses and cards from the game! They look a tad odd with more traditional CGI lighting but they all look like themselves at least. Of course this means the rest of the Thieves won't be full players in Smash, but it means they really took it literally by saying "Joker will stand for the entire Persona 5 game".

Edited by kyun on Apr 16th 2019 at 8:28:25 AM

I am constantly realizing that in these situations it's not the person I hate the most. It's their followers. Because a ton of people teaming up for a cause, wrong or not, forms a ton more influence than one person.

I'm mostly certain they were in the datamine.

They usually don't include character skins in updates, but who knows.

I'd have to actually get a look at all of Joker's alts to maybe see what "Jane" actually is, if not then perhaps it'll be something unexpected in the future.

Mementos stage look awesome! Way better than in the actual game. They even included P3 and P4 skins! That's awesome.

I'm a bit disappointed the AOA portraits only include Ryuji, Ann, and Morgana. Was hoping for an all-team assault, but this is fine too.

About "Jane", I don't think we can say if she's debunked or not. She's apparently an alt skin, so unless they showcase all of Joker's skins (so far, only his standard school uniform) she's still in an unconfirmed state. Besides, why would they announce her in Smash before her own game?

Wouldn't be nearly the first time Smash has thrown in nods to games or elements of games that haven't come out yet. Such as the Wooly World stage, the Metal Gear Solid 4 stage in Brawl, Roy's entire character, etc.

We already know all of Joker's alts. He has two school uniforms and five colors of his default. That's it.

Actually, Joker's AAA Final Smash randomly chooses either the founding members of the Phantom Thieves or the latter half. The full "Direct" shows off the other one with Yusuke, Makoto, and Haru when talking about his moveset.

Here's the renders for all of Joker's costumes with one referencing Akechi.

Here's a video:

Edited by tclittle on Apr 17th 2019 at 2:17:38 PM