Berserk

BTW, has anyone played Berserk and the Band of the Hawk? The fact that it allows me to beat the shit out of Femto with Casca already makes it worth it of consideration, but I want to know if it gas more going for it other than fanservice.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 16th 2019 at 12:30:14 PM

The Musou game? I haven't heard good things about it. Mediocre were the vibes I got.

That was it’s review score.

Also the vibes I got from people who had played it, including Berserk fans. The Super Best Friends crew didn't think highly of it IIRC, and they're giant Berserk fanboys.

Pity.

And kind of mistifying: Musou are such simple games, design wise, it's hard to see how you couod screw on up.

EDIT: Also late AF, but I wanted to point something out:

During the years between the Eclipse and Griffith's ressurection, the Midland was going to shit even harder than usual, and the initial episodes of the Tower of Conviction chapter heavily suggest that was because the Godhand were trying to make humanity even more susceptable to accept and surrender themselves to a messiah like Griffith.

So in a roundabout manner, everything bad that happens during that stretch of time is the Godhand's, and by extension Femto's, hands.

BTW, I like how Femto being the Moonboy fixes a case of Early-Installment Weirdness.

More especifically, the way Griffith is pretty dismissive of Guts during their brief encounter in the Black Swordsman chapter, while their meeting in the snowfield he behaves in a manner similar to when they were mercenaries.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 16th 2019 at 2:31:09 PM

I'm not enough of a Musou connisseur to know what makes a good and bad Musou game, but I've played enough to know that quality can dip even when sticking to the same formula. I've played Hyrule Warriors, Dynasty Warriors 8 and the One Piece game, and the first two are Musou done well, and the third one is Musou done less well. The less said about Dynasty Warriors 9 the better.

If you like musou games, BatBotH certainly is one of those. I do not care for musou games, and the Berserk license did nothing to overcome that for me, despite being on its face a fairly good fit for the genre.

I actually have the PS 2 Berserk game. Despite owning it for years I've barely touched it but it's supposed to be pretty decent.

I hear it has better animation than the show.

Oh yes, the animation and models are MUCH better than the 2016 show.

I put on a little puppet show for my nephew with sock puppets, and while the budget was obviously pretty low, I'm fairly confident in saying that the production values were still slightly higher than the 2016 anime.

Okay, the graphics are pretty good, 2016 anime or no.

The biggest problem is that it's only in Japanese, though it seems to follow the Qliphoth chapter closely enough that if you know how it goes, you're unlikely to be all that lost.

Edited by HailMuffins on Sep 16th 2019 at 8:24:36 AM

@Hail Muffins

Another very not good thing Griffith has done since the Eclipse is literally everything to do with his Messiah gambit. Remember, everyone who is caught up in demon's affairs gets sent to the Abyss upon death; not just Apostles, not just Sacrifices, as we see all the way back in the very beginning with Vargas in the Black Swordsman arc, even just innocent people who get screwed over are condemned to the chain of souls.

Remember how Flora mentioned souls normally get split off depending on karma? Thanks to Fuckto making Falconia the only "safe" haven after yeeting the physical and Astral worlds together, that good karma afterlife ain't getting any new members any time soon and the entire human species is damned to Hell.

Edited by TheAirman on Sep 16th 2019 at 7:00:29 AM

I'm not convinced that that's actually hell. My personal tinfoil-hat theory is that it only seems hellish to someone who is deeply attached to their own ego and sense of individuality. To someone like a Buddhist who believes that the individual self is just a temporary illusion anyway, it probably looks like Nirvana.

Edited by HighCrate on Sep 16th 2019 at 6:23:54 AM

Moonboy seems to have inherited his parents' stubborn refusal to give up and die. Not even being possessed by a God of Evil is enough to keep him down.

@ Airman: Your post gave me flashbacks to the epilogue of the Conviction arc, where it was explicitly called attention to that the Albion citizens that sought shelter in the church ran right into the Dark Tide and died, while those who found their own way to escape lived.

...am I crazy for thinking that's going to be foreshadowing for the final battle?

Hopefully that means Luna survives.

Well, Femto already has his kingdom in Falconia; marrying Charlotte for the title is just a formality at this point. And like Guts said, there's no way he's just gonna stop there.

The last time someone set out to be his equal, the dude fucking snapped (even though it was the exact condition he set for him to truly consider somebody his friend). One year later he did the thing because it helped him achieve his dream (and because Guts distracted him from the dream in the first place). For him that situation wasn't really any different than when he prostituted himself to fund and grow the band - its not that he cared about minimizing casualties for their own sake, it was simply more efficient that way. Then he executed the dude he slept with to protect his image. Pre-Eclipse his dream was dead, by choosing to sacrifice he had a chance again. So he did it. Simple.

Well now he has his kingdom. But there's four other Godhand doing who knows what, and the Io E above all of them as the absolute (even if we are supposed to pretend that episode never happened, we still know from Flora that the Godhand answer to something greater and/or there may be a true Capital "G" God).

So I really wouldn't be surprised if he ultimately forsakes Falconia to ascend even higher (or attempts to, anyways). Because while his words have always been that he wants to be a king, his actions have shown that what he really desires is to be number 1, with no equal or superior.

Edited by TheAirman on Sep 18th 2019 at 5:23:01 AM

The Idea of Evil isn't being killed off, that's a fact.

His existance is to justify the Godhand, nothing else. He's, at his core, no different than, say, the God aliens from Gantz, if far less of an asspull.

I'd ordinarily think the Idea is the kind of character that the protagonists wouldn't directly confront, but that whole bit about how "Even a god dies if you stab it in the heart" from the Sea God arc does make me wonder...

It would be nice if part of what leads to Griffith's downfall is him trying to reach higher power than he already has as one of the Godhand, only to make an error doing so which Guts and Casca exploit to take him down

Anyone read the Grunbeld Light Novel? Is it good?

So if you didn't hear, it was announced last week that One Piece will end within five years. I wonder if it or Berserk will reach the finish line first?

Edited by HamburgerTime on Nov 18th 2019 at 3:53:59 AM

I bet One Piece will finish first since it has a more regular schedule.

There's no way One Piece can end in five years in you ask me, but yeah, I'll probably have grandchildren before I see the end of Berserk.