Pokémon General Thread

Game Freak seems to be stuck in the mindset that Bug should be a "beginner's type", as many bug types are early-route Pokemon that evolve early with okay stats.

This reminds me (cause Bug/Steel -> Forretress and Scizor -> Gen 2): part of the issue with early Bugs is that their STAB options were practically nonexistent due to distribution. Their best option was usually Hidden Power.

Edited by Karxrida on Apr 28th 2024 at 9:25:40 AM

Gen 5 at least swung the pendulum in the type's favor somewhat by introducing a lot of very strong Bug types (and Leavanny) into the fold.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Apr 28th 2024 at 12:11:08 PM

Bug isn't awful as a type tbh. It has decent resistances and okay coverage. It just has super slim pickings for good Pokémon because Game Freak largely pigeonholed it into a specific game design space until Gen 5.

Not really? It has as many weaknesses as resistances, and is terrible as an offensive type. It's technically better on the type chart than grass, but grass has gotten a lot of support over the years that bug hasn't and has an important role in checking water. Bug only hard-counters grass, but fire does that just fine, while being a vastly better type

As far as good pokemon goes... most gens try to make at least one decent bug. They don't always succeed, but it's only gens 3 and 6 where all the new bugs are low-BST garbage

Bet you can say about bug defensively is that it resists types that are "good" to some degree (Ground, Fighting, and Grass).

However, it's also severely weak to three "good" types (Rock, Flying, Fire) so really, it's kind of a wash there.

You'd think with all the puffery about Articuno lately you'd see it more use in VGC but it didn't even rank in top 12 usage.

And apparently the king (THE GOTY!) returned to the top usage.

The GOTY?

the GOAT of ALL TIME Mr. Incineroar

Okay, I've been playing a bit more of Prism now, and my team has started to take shape a bit more. Currently I have Pupitar, Quilava, Flaaffy and Kirlia, and I also obtained a free Totodile that I've since evolved into Croconaw. I debated whether to use Vaporeon for my Water type, but I don't think it gets any Water moves for awhile in Prism, and Water T Ms seem very hard to come by, so I'll stick with Croconaw for now and see how it goes.

That leaves the sixth slot. I've mentioned before that I could use a Fighting type, and having just captured a Shroomish, I wonder if that could be filled by Breloom. However, I've also recently evolved my Zubat into a Golbat, with the hopes of getting a Crobat. If I can find a Fighting TM, I can always teach that to one of my bulkier Pokemon and stick with Crobat...but I do wonder if my team's type resistances would be better if I went with Breloom.

Any thoughts?

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Apr 29th 2024 at 11:18:23 AM

I just realized, there are no Electric/Fighting type Pokemon.

I think Fighting has been combo'ed with almost every other type but Electric and Fairy.

It's always weird to think of what hasn't been done yet in this series.

Rob, I think your brain is broken again, Pawmot exists. It's line is literally Electric/Fighting type.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 30th 2024 at 12:48:53 AM

Iron Hands is also Fighting/Electric type.

Funnily enough, all Pokemon with the Electric + Fighting combination were introduced in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Apr 29th 2024 at 9:51:38 AM

If you wanna talk type combos that haven't been used, there's Rock/Ghost.

It's a combo that would really help out Rock, but GF is going out of their way to NOT use it with certain Pokemon that are literally made of rock and ghosts.

Shit.

Ok, but I'm right about Fighting/Fairy, right?

I can't believe I forgot those two. I was just looking at them on Bulbapedia too.

Iron Valiant is Fairy and Fighting type.

Iron Valiant. One of my new favorites from Paldea actually.

SHIT!

Seriously, Ghost/Rock is a weirder combo we haven't had yet.

Isn't that right Spiritomb and Runerigus?

There's no Fire/Fairy type yet, leaving Fire as the only main series starter type to not be mixed with all of the others.

It's really not that hard to find a list of unused type combinations

Pokemon Legends Z. Kalosian Cinderace. Fire/Fairy. Make it happen, Game Freak!

I would also accept Kalosian Incineroar, now portrayed as a Face wrestler.

Talking about unused types makes me wonder if we get regional forms for some pokemon.

I’d certainly hope so.

So Normal is the Type with the most unused Type Combinations. Guess that makes sense.

I meant to say in pokemon Z-A.