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MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#18151: Jan 10th 2020 at 7:21:23 AM

South African Air Force C-130 Crash Lands In Congo.

Article mentions there was "no major damage" but the pic of the site shows the C-130 with a snapped wing. Somehow broken wings on an airplane doesn't qualify as "major damage".

Journalism these days...

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#18152: Jan 10th 2020 at 7:39:30 AM

I've been following the Boeing situation for a while now. The company seems to have utterly abandoned ethical considerations in an effort to save cost, actively preventing pilots from getting proper training on MCAS. Then they tried to blame the pilots. Goddamn. Someone should hang over this. Of course, they won't, because Boeing is still Congress' darling.

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#18153: Jan 10th 2020 at 7:58:37 AM

Sorry for the double-post, but Ars Technica published perhaps one of the greatest articles I have ever read, from my perspective as an unashamed GenX'er: Forget Top Gun: Maverick—let’s settle Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf once and for all

In a "who would win" between Airwolf and Blue Thunder, two of the iconic "cool helicopter" shows of the 80s (well, one's a movie and the other's a TV series, but still), the conclusion is that Airwolf would kick Blue Thunder's ass up and down the pavement, but Blue Thunder wins overall because Airwolf is boring as shit. [lol]

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#18154: Jan 10th 2020 at 7:59:29 PM

(well, one's a movie and the other's a TV series, but still)
I wanna say that there was a short-lived Blue Thunder TV show, but my memory is kinda spotty when it comes to thinking back that far.

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#18157: Jan 11th 2020 at 12:03:57 AM

Didn't airwolf crash into a mountian?

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#18158: Jan 11th 2020 at 1:33:17 AM

Major Tom, the article text states that the source claimed there was no signs of major damage, paired with the photo of the wing snapped off, it sounds like journalistic snark more than anything. Bad headline is bad though.

MajorTom Eye'm the cutest! Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#18160: Jan 13th 2020 at 7:50:23 PM

The Air Force's B-52H Bomber Force Has Said Goodbye To Its Nuclear Bombs.

The BUFF is no longer authorized to utilize nuclear gravity bombs, only the B2 can use them anymore. Instead they can utilize nuclear air-launched cruise missiles only.

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#18161: Jan 13th 2020 at 8:18:21 PM

Okay, I have to post this. From The Onion: Boeing Scrambling After New CEO Catches Fire During First Press Conference

See, this is the kind of high quality reporting that makes The Onion the respected news source that it is.

At press time, investigators found that Mr. Calhoun had failed to pay Boeing for additional safety protections that could have prevented him from exploding into millions of small, unidentifiable pieces.

Edited by Fighteer on Jan 13th 2020 at 11:21:32 AM

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#18164: Jan 15th 2020 at 11:18:35 AM

As far as I know, aircraft do not require permission to dump fuel.

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#18165: Jan 15th 2020 at 12:55:23 PM

"The FAA is thoroughly investigating the circumstances behind this event. There are special emergency fuel-dumping procedures for aircraft operating into and out of any major US airport.

"These procedures call for fuel to be dumped over designated unpopulated areas, typically at higher altitudes so the fuel atomizes and disperses before it reaches the ground."

The Feds disagree.

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#18166: Jan 15th 2020 at 1:15:53 PM

That does not say that they need permission, but that they can't do it everywhere they like.

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#18168: Jan 15th 2020 at 9:26:10 PM

US Navy picks Leonardo TH-119 for next helicopter trainer fleet

The US Navy (USN) has picked Leonardo's light, singled-engined TH-119 for its next trainer helicopter.

The service plans to replace its aging fleet of Bell TH-57B/C Sea Rangers with 130 examples of the TH-119. The USN announced the winner of the Advanced Helicopter Training System TH-73A contest on 13 January.

TH-119 helicopters sold to the USN will be rebranded as TH-73As.

Should go well with the the Red Hawk.

Edited by TairaMai on Jan 16th 2020 at 12:30:06 AM

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#18169: Jan 16th 2020 at 12:01:34 AM

Should go well with the the Red Hawk
Just me, or does it look like the love child of a T-45 and an F/A-18?

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#18170: Jan 16th 2020 at 1:08:16 AM

[up][up]I'd be honestly surprised if they knew there was a school there, let alone chose the school as an appropriate dump site, which more goes in the direction of why there are evidently rules on what kinds of areas an airplane can dump fuel over.

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#18171: Jan 16th 2020 at 2:17:01 AM

The reason ATC kept asking if they needed to dump fuel or hold to burn it off was because of said rules.

Edited by Deadbeatloser22 on Jan 16th 2020 at 10:17:50 AM

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#18172: Jan 20th 2020 at 5:33:56 AM

It gets better and better regarding the 737 debacle. Apparently, the improper software activation was already a factor in a 2009 crash of a Turkish airplane in the Netherlands but investigators were persuaded to deemphasize its role in the accident.

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#18173: Jan 20th 2020 at 7:09:10 AM

The consistency between these events seems to be a deliberate effort to emphasize the role of the pilots in the crashes, saying that they should have recognized the erroneous behavior of the automated systems and taken appropriate action. Of course, this omits the facts that Boeing did not train the pilots on those systems, nor include the critical information about them in the manuals.

Blaming the people instead of the engineering is an easy dodge, but it leads to tragedy... demonstrably.

Edited by Fighteer on Jan 20th 2020 at 10:09:22 AM

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#18174: Jan 20th 2020 at 7:29:13 AM

From reading various accident reports and Air Crash Investigation it seems like the general topic of how humans and machines interact has been a major issue in aviation safety. From machines springing surprises onto pilots to machines and pilots fighting between each other for control, I've seen everything.

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