The Military Thread

Cheaper to do it domestically rather than just going abroad every time we need to do it. Also helps with building trust in equipment and protocols.

Oh, I know. It's just that both of them sound real painful.

I don't remember what agents I got exposed during my CBRN training, but I'm pretty sure it was just some variants of tear gas.

Wait, they are exposing people to a nerve agent?

While they're inside their CBRN equipment, yes.

dRoy: Good job on the list.

Now you gotta do things like blaming Syngman Rhee's money-peddling ghost for the ROKA's present issues and attempting to make Douglas MacArthur the patron saint of the unit.

And there's nothing like waking up everyone each morning to a hearty yell of "DIE COMMIE SCUM" and other 50s-era battle cries.

Edited by TheWildWestPyro on Sep 16th 2019 at 9:08:52 AM

Still, yikes.

Not exactly that specific, but I was told that "Fuck the Commie Scums!" was not an acceptable battle cry.

Which was funny, because one of the most sung ROKA song is titled "Torch that Shall Vanquish Communism."

I guess it was the profanity.

That reminds me of two songs that I would link had I not forgotten how to embed Youtube videos on the forums all of a sudden.

Edited by TheWildWestPyro on Sep 16th 2019 at 9:48:25 AM

This is a pretty cool song:

It’s safer than you’d think.

For my current job I have to do OC recertification once a year, which involves being exposed and is pretty consistently miserable.

Edited by archonspeaks on Sep 16th 2019 at 10:03:00 AM

Ah, there we go:

Edited by TheWildWestPyro on Sep 16th 2019 at 10:19:58 AM

From what I've read, Mustard is pretty far down on the brown pants scale when it comes to chemical warfare agents. Somewhere above CS, but nowhere near VX.

Basically, if you've been exposed to it, it's less "ohgodohgodohgodgivehimtheantidotenobodypanic!" and more "Oh, well shit. Gasgasgas, get your masks on, hey Jenkins, stop playing Yugiyoh for a minute and go drive Snuffy to the medical guys, would you?"

I bet Magic is mad popular in the military...

Why are mobile erector launchers transportable while transporter erector launchers are mobile?

A TEL is a single vehicle, one whole integrated unit. A MEL is a trailer, it’s not independently mobile. There are also TEs, which carry missiles around but don’t launch them.

The distinction between a TEL and a MEL is a little fuzzy. Generally, a TEL refers to a unit that’s a little more mobile and rugged, and it’s usually used “shoot and scoot” style. MELs are more just a platform that doesn’t need to be fixed in one place, they aren’t quite as mobile as a TEL.

Basically, transportable is strategic mobility and mobile is tactical mobility.

Edited by archonspeaks on Sep 16th 2019 at 7:44:02 AM

Huh, I guess it's the "driving on parkways and parking on driveways" of missile systems.

dRoy: I love your list.

Stargazing in a war zone, or how the Middle East really is beautiful at dawn and night.

Why, thank you.

...Say, is there anything you can do unintentionally that make Marines hate you?

Because whatever it is, I must've done it when they came to my base during a military exercise.

I mean, considering we're talking about the Corps, my guess is that your crime was 'existing.'

If disposable rocket tubes are so cheap, why is the AT-4 so much more expensive then the RPG-7? They are both simple unguided afairs, is there production standards of the RPG-7 that much lower or something?

And would it in theroy be posible to make a disposable unit at RPG-7 like costs?

As far as how to make Marines hate you, there was a Twitter thread about how every branch of the military has different rules for how to address NC Os. Evidently it's not uncommon for Army folks to piss off Marine NC Os by calling them "Sergeant."

And then there's the Air Force practice of just calling NC Os "Sir" or "Ma'am" and being done with it.

I mean, considering we're talking about the Corps, my guess is that your crime was 'existing.'

Hah, good one.

Evidently it's not uncommon for Army folks to piss off Marine NC Os by calling them "Sergeant."

Oooohhhh, I did do that to multiple Marine NCO. I mean, how else was I supposed to address them anyway? :/

I guess it also didn't help that by that point I had only few months left so I was acting...rather comfortable around the base.

Edited by dRoy on Sep 18th 2019 at 12:01:24 AM

x3 My guess would be labor costs. Even if it's a relatively cheap thing to make, at one point or another humans get involved in the manufacturing process, and humans (even in countries like the US with shit labor laws) don't come that cheap.

The Russians have the advantage of lower labor costs.

Lower labor costs because Russian workers are generally paid less to begin with plus remember that all Russian military industrial companies are explicitly owned by the state.

All their procurement and research and development happens at cost.

As far as Marine NC Os and Staff NC Os go, you're supposed to address them by their full rank. So an E-6 is a Staff Sergeant, not a Sergeant. Especially since "Sergeant" is their E-5 rank.

Naturally, the Marines have like two evolution paths for their NC Os so they have more NCO ranks than they do NCO paygrades.