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Overlord347 Since: May, 2013
#29676: Nov 17th 2018 at 4:01:15 PM

[up]Personally, I think it's the third one. He's never shown his actual avatar in a truly bad light, just that he was once misguided, but now is on the path of righteousness.

Dragon573 Sanity not included from Sitting at a bonfire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Sanity not included
#29677: Nov 17th 2018 at 9:00:21 PM

http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2018-11-18

...Wow. He's actually not having Squig relapse. I... I mean, I'm not sure if this is progress, and if it is, I'm not sure how far it is, but I wasn't entirely expecting that, especially with one of the previous strips being called "once a member, always a member."

Also, minor gripe, but Tats was doing a great job keeping those stained glass windows behind the porno-preacher consistent until this strip.

It's kind of funny. Sufficiently advanced stupidity is like sufficiently advanced science; eventually, you find something you can't solve.
Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#29678: Nov 17th 2018 at 9:03:42 PM

Your loss Squig. Honestly, between fapping regularly or trying to win the approval of a pack of joyless harpies and a woman who's name NO ONE ACTUALLY KNOWS, I know which I'd pick.

yamiblade Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#29679: Nov 17th 2018 at 9:14:52 PM

[up] Right. I'll be consoling myself with Dangaizer 3, Valkyrie Drive Mermaid and High School DXD.

YamiiDenryuu Since: Jan, 2010
#29680: Nov 17th 2018 at 9:30:07 PM

Valkyrie Drive Mermaid

patrician taste

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#29681: Nov 17th 2018 at 9:58:24 PM

""These kinds of mixed messages are the main reason why for a long time I was never sure if this strip intends to glorify feminism or satirize it. Sometimes I'm still not sure.''

I still think that right now Tats wants those messages to be taken at face value, because he's trying to please Someone Else. But the ambiguity gives him enough wiggle room that if the relationship with Someone Else ever ends, he can retcon everything into a repudiation of radical feminism.

UPDATE: And come to think of it, I got the strong impression that Nameless Sad Abused Runaway Orphan Hooker Girl was in this comic because Somebody Else told Tats "No! You're doing it wrong! This isn't about him! It's about Her! "

Edited by Hexapodia on Nov 17th 2018 at 10:26:31 AM

Shinziril Since: Feb, 2011
#29682: Nov 17th 2018 at 10:20:37 PM

[up]x5: I'm pretty sure the stained-glass panels changing is deliberate. Like, pseudo-hallucinations on Squig's part? All of the figures in panel 2 are pretty specifically from Squig's old stash here. Still weird that it changes to yet another set at the end that I can't place yet. Also, the pose of the blue-tinted girl in panel 2 changes as we switch to panel 3.

Edit: Ah, the last panels are from the top line of panels here. Which Squig has no reason to have ever seen. They were also essentially being degraded as "low quality" there, even by the Johnbies. Why would they show up in the Porn & Prostitution church windows? Strange.

Edited by Shinziril on Nov 17th 2018 at 12:28:47 PM

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#29683: Nov 17th 2018 at 10:29:51 PM

[up] Or maybe the strength of the Johnbies' belief is bringing the images to life? 'The Word made flesh'?

yamiblade Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#29684: Nov 17th 2018 at 10:36:33 PM

[up][up][up] And my response: Why should I care about a nameless NPC?

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#29685: Nov 18th 2018 at 1:05:37 AM

[up] They don't need names, because all of them are perfect. That's why Tats' women and fembots are all essentially identical. Any differences among them are forced upon them by the roles that Evil Menz assign to them.

Heck, even the Devil Girls are named according to their colors. Fuchsia wouldn't be allowed to rename herself Cathy or Zelda or whatever.

hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#29686: Nov 18th 2018 at 2:37:56 AM

So Squig breaks free and runs out of the porn church. Hurray I guess?

Hexapodia Nov 18th 2018 at 6:58:24 AM

""These kinds of mixed messages are the main reason why for a long time I was never sure if this strip intends to glorify feminism or satirize it. Sometimes I'm still not sure.''

I still think that right now Tats wants those messages to be taken at face value, because he's trying to please Someone Else. But the ambiguity gives him enough wiggle room that if the relationship with Someone Else ever ends, he can retcon everything into a repudiation of radical feminism.

UPDATE: And come to think of it, I got the strong impression that Nameless Sad Abused Runaway Orphan Hooker Girl was in this comic because Somebody Else told Tats "No! You're doing it wrong! This isn't about him! It's about Her! "

Poe's Law is always 100% in effect in Sinfest. I'm on the side that Tats is absolutely serious, since he's been going at this since 2011 and has only been getting worse.

It's not strange that we can't tell whether he's serious or not. If he's serious then his beliefs are so radical that only another radical could agree with him. For non-believers Sinfest reads as a cautionary tale against joining radical feminism, because the beliefs are clearly insane.

It's not a stretch to have Squig have flashbacks to Nameless Sad Abused Runaway Orphan Hooker Girl's face. In the storyline Squig is feeling horrifying guilt because it was all but said directly by Nameless Sad Abused Runaway Orphan Hooker Girl he personally raped her and every other porn actress he ever saw.

So him thinking about her during his "reconversion" actually fits the story for once!

Edited by hayate666 on Nov 18th 2018 at 3:22:18 PM

Raylas Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird. Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Roundbird with knives. Knife Bird.
#29687: Nov 18th 2018 at 2:42:07 AM

[up][up][up] There's really no good answer to that, speaking as a prospective author, beyond "You shouldn't, that's a poorly written soulless husk."

Basically, Sad Hooker is the narrative equivalent of the drawing this face: " —__—" on a piece of cardboard.

Edited by Raylas on Nov 18th 2018 at 5:42:22 AM

Dragon573 Sanity not included from Sitting at a bonfire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Sanity not included
#29688: Nov 18th 2018 at 5:08:42 AM

I don't know... Frisk had a pretty big impact on my life...

It's kind of funny. Sufficiently advanced stupidity is like sufficiently advanced science; eventually, you find something you can't solve.
Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#29689: Nov 18th 2018 at 6:23:59 PM

I just noticed that in the bottom panel of the Sunday page, the middle bikini girl is larger than the window behind her; she seems to have somehow gained three-dimensional status.

It's a miracle!

Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#29691: Nov 18th 2018 at 8:42:14 PM

And Slick continues to be a better friend than anyone Sisterhood affiliated.

yamiblade Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#29692: Nov 18th 2018 at 8:49:30 PM

[up]

Agreed

The Virgin Sisterhood vs the Chad Best Bro Slick.

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#29693: Nov 18th 2018 at 9:51:48 PM

Apparently Slick is Johnbie-proof. Good for him.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#29694: Nov 18th 2018 at 10:08:35 PM

Well, at least Slick is learning to be a better human being than the Bratty Hood.

hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#29695: Nov 18th 2018 at 10:52:55 PM

A random Slick appears! Why is he here?

Garvalan Since: Nov, 2010
#29696: Nov 18th 2018 at 11:02:00 PM

Is that a character we've seen before? He looks familiar.

alarkhar Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Desperate
#29697: Nov 18th 2018 at 11:37:27 PM

Well, mentlegen... THIS i liked. I wonder what will the "mustard forum" say about it, though, since it's males being ACTUALLY human and positive; "This shouldn't be about them, it should be about females", mebbe?

Edited by alarkhar on Nov 18th 2018 at 8:41:03 PM

Platypi hold the secret to happiness.
Francis81 Since: Aug, 2015
#29698: Nov 19th 2018 at 4:31:32 AM

Meanwhile, in the Mustard Forum:

While I agree with what you are saying, it's still an extremely negative trait of men. They realize how porn is damaging their lives, walk away from it, then spend the rest of the time either pitying themselves for ever being addicted or self congratulating themselves for getting away from it. Meanwhile, the actual victim, the female porn star, is still suffering, is still being held captive and raped on film, and they did absolutely nothing what-so-ever to help or benefit her in the slightest.
Is... is this some trolling? Because while the porn industy definitely has its issues, nobody will never be able to seriously address them if that kind of individual continues to spread their bizarre and twisted vision of reality.

I mean, of course there are cases of porn actress who are held captive and abused, but to think the pornographic media as a whole, in itself, is ONLY that ... this is tinfoil-hat level of political paranoia here.

Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#29699: Nov 19th 2018 at 5:39:52 AM

[up]I've recently come across people who think white supremacists are using the bad guys from Gundam to subtly recruit people. The mentality was that because said villians are nazi-esque, that means that if you own a bunch of merch based on their faction that you are somehow sympathetic to actual nazis.

Never, EVER dount just how deep the rabbit holes of stupidity and insanity go.

Francis81 Since: Aug, 2015
#29700: Nov 19th 2018 at 8:33:59 AM

[up]When re-reading the post, I realize this person doesn't even use the term "porn actress". He says "female porn star". Porn stars, ladies and gentleman! Porn stars like these, for example: https://www.scoopwhoop.com/inothernews/highest-paid-porn-stars/ ... right now, as we're speaking, they're all held hostage in a basement (the female ones, at last) and being regularly beaten up by a monstruous pimp. Their freedom? Their money? Their business savvy? Elaborate facades!

And to think Tats is okay with that kind of nutjob, while he bans people who simply ask questions about Transgender issues ...


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