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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#66276: Dec 11th 2023 at 2:53:07 PM

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in all likelyhood after killing him the Desire Demon stole his body shit hit the fan VERY quickly and templers had to be summoned

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#66277: Dec 11th 2023 at 3:36:47 PM

How was the Annulment of Dairsmuid justified? Rivain (and the Avvar) have been performing ritual spirit possession long before the Chantry came along, with very little actual abominations popping up; if there were, they would have either banned the practice, or gotten themselves wiped off the map. The fact that neither Rivain nor the Avvar has vanished as a culture after centuries, if not millennia, of that practice is proof that there isn't an inherent problem with spirit possession if done right.

As we see with the Avarr, they use animals to serve as the basis for their gods and we know that doing so has a potential to backfire massively. But my point isn't necessarily that it results in a bunch of psychotic blood mages but that Solas points out it is horrific for the spirits and horribly warps them.

Its effectively torture for them.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#66278: Dec 11th 2023 at 3:42:43 PM

It isn’t common for it to backfire in the Avvar, but the intent of WHY they do so does impact things.

Like say using a Spirit to wage war on people using a dragon as its vessel. By itself the Spirit wouldn’t be up to anything major despite being a deity of war, but it’s the intent of why it was called that made it a threat.

And when they do have Abomination type situations they try to observe and see how things go before reacting with violence, as we see with the pair whose bond has lead them to not separate yet.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Dec 11th 2023 at 3:43:49 AM

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SilentColossus (Old as dirt)
#66279: Dec 11th 2023 at 4:13:19 PM

When you speak with the Avvar auger, he says the mages who are unable to leave their teacher are watched by the other gods, to ensure that neither "sickens." If they do sicken, one day they don't wake up.

The difference is that both parties understand the risks and take steps to mitigate them, which is not the case for other cases of possession.

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#66280: Dec 11th 2023 at 6:43:44 PM

[up]x3 Okay, but what does spirit binding actually have to do with the Avvar and Rivain? Neither culture practices spirit binding, which is nearly exclusively a Tevinter practice, since it's considered blood magic. Binding spirits is an invasive magic against the spirits, something the Rivaini and Avvar are abhorrently against. The Rivaini specifically give spirits amulets to prevent rivals from binding them in the first place. The seers from both cultures practice voluntary and, most importantly, temporary possession with a willing spirit, with no intent of binding or controlling the spirit, as that goes against their entire respective belief systems when it comes to communing and interacting with spirits.

Edited by ITNW1989 on Dec 11th 2023 at 6:44:03 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#66281: Dec 12th 2023 at 9:32:07 AM

So those astariums,do people actually complete them?I've not done one!

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ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#66282: Dec 12th 2023 at 12:05:31 PM

[up] I just finished watching a You Tuber let's play Inquisition, and she completed a number of astriums (astreria?), as I recall!

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somerandomdude from Dark side of the moon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
#66283: Dec 12th 2023 at 12:09:18 PM

I do them. They're not usually that difficult, I like solving puzzles, and you get some decent loot.

I never bother with shards unless I'm playing a qunari.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#66284: Dec 12th 2023 at 12:34:09 PM

See I suck at puzzles and not being able to undo something meant constant restarts was annoying

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SilentColossus (Old as dirt)
#66285: Dec 12th 2023 at 1:02:35 PM

I didn't mind doing the many side quests in Inquisition, but I didn't come anywhere close to finishing the astrariums or shards.

ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#66286: Dec 12th 2023 at 11:43:48 PM

[up][up][up] I'm curious, if I may: why do you collect the shards specifically when playing a Qunari character?

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somerandomdude from Dark side of the moon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
#66287: Dec 13th 2023 at 6:15:16 AM

The best vitaar in the game, bar none, is behind the last door.

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ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#66288: Dec 13th 2023 at 7:04:20 AM

Aaah, interesting! Thank you for clarifying! ^_^

(The You Tuber who I watched went through a few doors, but not all. In all fairness, she wasn't playing as a Qunari—although she did have The Iron Bull in her party at times.)

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somerandomdude from Dark side of the moon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
#66289: Dec 13th 2023 at 1:12:59 PM

EDIT: Link didn't work due to the apostrophe in the URL sad

It's called "Arishok's Vitaar."

Edited by somerandomdude on Dec 13th 2023 at 4:14:08 AM

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ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#66290: Dec 13th 2023 at 11:19:01 PM

Fair enough! And thank you for further clarifying!

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somerandomdude from Dark side of the moon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#66292: Dec 14th 2023 at 8:04:54 AM

The player being a literal nobody does make me think they're going to be someone who was recently cured of being tranquil

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#66293: Dec 14th 2023 at 11:14:27 AM

Wonder if that means we'll eventually get Seeker powers as part of the plot.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#66294: Dec 14th 2023 at 11:19:22 AM

That would be the kind of gimmick they would go for,it's not 'magical hand' as much as inherent powers your gaining

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somerandomdude from Dark side of the moon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
#66295: Dec 14th 2023 at 12:04:10 PM

Piecing together leaks and what promotional material there's been gives me the impression that we'll have a selection of potential player characters, though probably not with actual playable origin stories (or only a very short one, like in Cyberpunk 2077). The Lords of Fortune, the Grey Wardens, and the Tevinter Sicarii seem to be likely candidates, though they might also be companions (or both!).

I don't think you should read that much into the "nobody" thing. Most of our protagonists, aside from Cousland, Aeducan, and Trevelyan, have been "nobodies" — they just emphasized it to quash speculation that the Inquisitor would be returning as the protagonist.

Edited by somerandomdude on Dec 14th 2023 at 3:04:55 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#66297: Dec 14th 2023 at 5:17:20 PM

[up][up] and @Tranquil PC,

where is this info coming from? This part is news to me.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#66298: Dec 15th 2023 at 5:04:45 AM

Its speculation that's coming from me

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SilentColossus (Old as dirt)
#66299: Dec 28th 2023 at 4:48:03 PM

I was going to romance Alistair but I just recruited Zevran again.

Decisions, decisions...

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#66300: Dec 28th 2023 at 4:50:07 PM

See I have an issue,I can't bring myself to recruit Zevran

I do however send him after Logain

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