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DragonFax Since: Mar, 2022
#1: Oct 13th 2023 at 4:28:54 AM

Whenever I see Captain Obvious Reveal on a work's YMMV page, I always get the impression that it's just the troper who added the entry who thought the reveal was obvious. I often think, "Well I didn't see it coming so it's not that obvious."

Of course, I could be wrong, and my view that it isn't obvious is just my opinion too. But I wonder if we should require evidence that the majority of people who saw the work thought the reveal was obvious (much like Unfortunate Implications requires evidence that it isn't just one person's opinion.) Otherwise, how do we know that the example isn't just the opinion of one particularly perceptive troper?

Sid-Starkiller Since: Jan, 2021
#2: Oct 13th 2023 at 6:18:43 AM

I mean...it's YMMV for a reason. Besides, sometimes there are reveals that I didn't see coming, but in retrospect/on rewatch there's enough hints that I feel I should have noticed.

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#3: Oct 13th 2023 at 9:25:40 PM

As far as I'm aware, audience reactions are still supposed to be more than one person's opinion, but one shared by a significant chunk of the fan base.

SharkToast Since: Mar, 2013
#4: Oct 14th 2023 at 7:39:17 AM

Unfortunate Implications was a special case. For one, saying something has Unfortunate Implications is going to be controversial (which is why it became Flame Bait). Second, before the citation system the page was really out of control with tropers accusing this work or that work of Unfortunate Implications with very flimsy evidence.

I don't think YMMV tropes need some citation system. If you look at the fandom, you can tell if this is an opinion held by multiple people or not.

Edited by SharkToast on Oct 14th 2023 at 7:39:42 AM

MasterN Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button from Florida- I mean Unova Since: Aug, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#5: Dec 18th 2023 at 6:25:52 PM

I do think providing an explanation as to WHY the twist was so obvious is necessary to prevent it from being a Partial-Context Example, so the reader unfamiliar with the work can know why the twist is obvious.

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