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BoltDMC Since: May, 2020
#1: Feb 15th 2023 at 6:08:45 PM

Is it okay to add a trope to a works page when the trope page has no added examples? There's an example of Godwin's Law in a work I'm adding entries to, but the trope page itself does not have any work examples on it.

Many thanks!

NoUsername i'm at the combination she and it Since: May, 2012
i'm at the combination she and it
#2: Feb 15th 2023 at 7:23:42 PM

yep! that's what's called No On-Page Examples — you can add examples to work pages, but not on the page itself. contrast with Definition-Only Pages, which are the ones that don't allow examples on their own page or on work pages

Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#3: Feb 15th 2023 at 7:53:37 PM

[up]Godwin's Law is actually listed under neither, so ~BoltDMC has a point.

On-page examples should be prohibited from Godwin's Law as it attracts complaining.

Edited by Nen_desharu on Feb 15th 2023 at 10:55:05 AM

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selkies Professional Wick Checker Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
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#4: Feb 15th 2023 at 9:17:05 PM

[up] It should be listed under NOPE (lol) then.

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#5: Feb 15th 2023 at 10:49:39 PM

If Godwin's Law isn't actually listed on No On-Page Examples, it shouldn't be added without discussion. There are a number of older tropes that lack on-page examples for no apparent reason other than that they were created at a time when standards for pages were much, much laxer. And for some of these tropes, all they really need is for off-page examples to be crosswicked onto the page.

I don't know whether Godwin's Law would fall under "just needs crosswicking" or "should be No On-Page Examples" (or some other category), but that's what discussion is for.

On-page examples should be prohibited from Godwin's Law as it attracts complaining.

If you suspect that it attracts complaining, that may be cause for a wick check to see if that assumption holds true. If it does, then that's the sort of thing that could be taken to Trope Repair Shop.

BlackMage43 Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
#6: Feb 16th 2023 at 3:20:50 AM

I agree that normal examples would probably just attract complaining. I feel In-Universe examples of character invoking and talking about Godwin's Law would be fine to have on the page.

BoltDMC Since: May, 2020
#7: Feb 16th 2023 at 3:26:13 AM

Thanks everyone.

So I’ve added the trope example to the works page (it’s in-universe) but didn’t add it to the tropes page. If that’s not okay, please let me know.

Edited by BoltDMC on Feb 16th 2023 at 6:27:01 AM

Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#8: Feb 16th 2023 at 9:08:35 AM

Godwin's Law should be made IUEO then.

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