Pokemon Scarlet and Violet

Espathra and Chien-Pao are banned from OU

Cowards!!!

Garg laughs as it keeps salting on

Garg: I will never die

I love how half of the Ruination quartet has already been widely associated with a meme, Sad Cheems for Chien-Pao and Live Slug Reaction for Wo-Chien. Now we just need Chi-Yu and Ting-Lu to get the same treatment.

Personally I've been proposing using this as a meme for Chi-Yu

The fact that Chi Yu is "just" a fish is a meme in itself.

I mean, it's a pair of jade beads possessed by jealousy in the form of a volcanic fish, but sure, it's a fish.

Not really a meme, but I usually associate Chi-Yu with Koizilla, owed to the simple fact they’re both devastating fish monsters.

I think Chi-Yu could be a good candidate for the ‘Killer fish from San Diego’ meme, although I’ve seen that one with Veluza more

Ting-Lu I’ve already seen someone put it over the ‘man’ horse meme right here

Edited by TheLuckOfTheClaws on Feb 11th 2023 at 2:25:04 PM

Im surprised that Lumina Crash wasnt a big reason for Espartha being banned

Same, that move is pretty OP.

I guess Stored Power just snowballs way harder with Speed Boost, Lumina is more for raids. Granted they really should've banned just Speed Boost Espathra but complex bans and all that.

Lumina Crash is psychic type and this gen we've gotten a bunch of strong Dark types, but Espathra's main deal is Speed Boost and snowballing with stored power, plus, of course, Terastalization making a good Pokemon just uncounterable.

I know a lot of Dark Types have been introduced, but for all other pokemon its basically guaranteed to be a Two Hit KO. Unless they resist, in which case... like... 3

So out of curiosity, if you transfer a Pokemon from the Legends games, do they still keep their unique Pokeball?

Edit: oh shit, thought I was in the regular thread.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 12th 2023 at 1:38:36 PM

Yeah Lumina Crash is overkill outside of raids becuase Stored Power can score KOs by itself. Its more of a Doubles move in that regard.

Plus it also has Dazzling Gleam so you know, if you set up enough C Ms you're fine. Clearly we need a Dark Unaware mon.

I only ended up using an Espartha because I was doing an all Psychic-Types run and she was probably my second or third strongest Mon

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16459715210A05752700&page=285#comment-7117 I believe they're going to be put in Strange Balls, same for when you transfer a pokemon from a modern game to legends.

See here. Pokémon in Hisuian balls are displayed in Strange Balls in BDSP and HOME, but the ball is not recognized by SwSh, and shows up as a regular Poké Ball. In SV, Hisuian balls will supposedly show up as Strange Balls too, but since SV aren’t compatible with HOME yet, I’d assume they figured that out by looking at the code.

Edited by Lymantria on Feb 12th 2023 at 8:16:00 PM

I think SV had the Hissui balls in its code, but gotta check.

EDIT: And nope, Strange Ball it is, and let's see if it can be passed through breeding.◊

Edited by Eriorguez on Feb 12th 2023 at 9:37:42 PM

I can't understand why not just put the code for these balls in future games.

My guesses:

• the Watsonian one would be that the balls are so ancient that they shouldn't exist in the present. As well as the basic ones and the Heavy ball having modern equivalents.
• The Doylist reason would be that the devs do not want another rareball scenario like with the Apricorn balls, as even the basic pokeball in PLA is a design exclusive to there, and they just know that there would be people making elaborate trades for even a pokemon in those simply because it cannot be found in any other game nor obtained through mundane means
  • Alternative, they do want another rareball scenario but want to wait first, my guess being until a new console arrives and the number of people that play PLA diminishes drastically, with the Strange Balls being palceholders until then.
  • Another possibility is that they feel like the Hisuian ones clash too much with the modern balls. Basically, a standardization thing (the counterargument would be the Gen 3 and 4 balls that do not have a white "bottom", but those are more minor than the changes made for the Hisuian balls)

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Feb 12th 2023 at 12:48:08 PM