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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#2201: Mar 17th 2023 at 1:09:17 PM

Flint didn't need or want to be cured. His powers weren't hurting him or anybody else. They weren't even making him evil or whatever because he was already a good guy. The only thing he's a victim of is bad writing. The writers came up with a square hole of a plot, then broke out a hammer and tried to mash a variety of differently shaped pegs into it.

Supposedly the in-story reason for why Marko constantly looked like a human shaped pile of sand instead of normal was because his powers were failing.

So yeah, he's still not evil but his life was getting progressively worse as he kept his powers.

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#2202: Mar 17th 2023 at 1:13:29 PM

Wait what? When was that established again?

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#2203: Mar 17th 2023 at 1:38:59 PM

I don't think they mention that in the movie, maybe in an interview?

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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#2204: Mar 17th 2023 at 1:47:03 PM

I think it was an interview. I know it was not in the movie.

Which is a cop-out but hey at least there's an explanation.

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#2205: Mar 17th 2023 at 1:48:12 PM

By that logic, Flint would have even more motivation to wait to get cured.

But really it's just an explanation for the dodgy CGI because the actor couldn't get in due to COVID.

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#2206: Mar 20th 2023 at 6:03:41 AM

Sandman I think indicates that he came from a long time after the movie. He gives Peter a whole “remember me? It’s Flint Marko!” introduction.

Flint addresses Peter by name, which implied to me that Peter and Flink interacted at some point after SM3 as well, because even though Flint saw Peter's face at the end and realized from context that he was Ben's nephew, I don't think he knew his name at that point.

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#2207: Mar 20th 2023 at 9:13:37 AM

Could have found out from Eddie, I guess. Or, the guy did kill Ben Parker and deeply regreted it... not hard to put the pieces together when someone comes after you for revenge over that murder. Who else could it be, Aunt May?

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#2208: Mar 20th 2023 at 4:25:37 PM

Regretting killing a guy and doing a search history on him are different.

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#2209: Mar 20th 2023 at 4:49:30 PM

Spider-Man (attempted) murdered Flint in retaliation for Ben Parker.

  • Spider-Man: Flint Marko.
  • Flint: What do you want from me?
  • Spider-Man: Remember Ben Parker? The old man you shot down in cold blood?
  • Flint: What does it matter to you anyway?
  • Spider-Man: Everything! ... It's time to pay, Marko!

After a fight like this, I'd probably take some time to do a bit of Googling too.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 20th 2023 at 4:50:01 AM

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#2210: Mar 21st 2023 at 5:19:22 AM

It's kinda hard to Google when you're mud and Emo Peter is vibing.

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#2211: Mar 21st 2023 at 7:06:56 AM

Dear Sandman, how do you type with hands made of sand?

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#2212: Mar 21st 2023 at 7:09:45 AM

Compressed solid-sand fingers hovering on top of each key gives Sandman the ability to type 450 wpm. I wish I could have as many fingers are there are keys on the keyboard.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 21st 2023 at 7:10:37 AM

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#2213: Apr 3rd 2023 at 6:20:06 PM

Edited by LucienRen on Apr 3rd 2023 at 7:11:05 AM

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#2214: Apr 3rd 2023 at 6:56:54 PM

[up]That reason, in your eyes, is?

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#2215: Apr 3rd 2023 at 8:20:13 PM

...Why'd you delete your post? It's perfectly valid to talk about future movie ideas.

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LucienRen Since: Jan, 2023
#2216: Apr 3rd 2023 at 9:32:58 PM

I wrote the same thing on the mcu, so I decided to remove one.

Basically the idea is that Daredevil trains Spider-man.

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#2217: Apr 3rd 2023 at 9:46:49 PM

Would Matt’s fighting style serve Spidey?

When Shang-Chi taught Spider-Man way of the spider or whatever, it was a new martial arts form the guy had to invent specifically for Spidey because of all the advantages spider powers already offer

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#2218: Apr 3rd 2023 at 9:50:22 PM

I personally think the best way you handle a Daredevil and Spidey team up is just having them both be equal partners but Matt is just a bit more experienced in detective work and understanding crime in a way that Peter has yet to.

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#2219: Apr 3rd 2023 at 9:51:19 PM

That makes sense.

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#2220: Apr 3rd 2023 at 9:56:28 PM

Consider that Peter while still stronger than Daredevil is still a teenager who is more used to just punching criminals and leaving them for the police to arrest.

So ideally, this is how Daredevil should complement Spider-Man in their team up. Let's say hypothetically, Spider-Man is pursing a crime that Wilson Fisk orchestrated. Peter goes up to his office as Spider-Man and just punches him and expects the police to arrest him, but then Kingpin spins the entire thing in his favor and makes Spider-Man look like a criminal.

Like that one scene in Spectacular with Tomestone.

This is where Daredevil comes in, he's the law savvy crime fighter who knows Fisk can't just be punched, and so this is where Spider-Man learns from him on how to combat crime better.

We need a mentor figure that improves Peter's abilities by making him smarter against crime not just giving him cool gadgets.

Peter is still young, he's got a lot to learn but he's survived lots of shit and has accomplishments so he shouldn't be treated like a rookie hero.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 4th 2023 at 12:57:49 AM

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