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Since we have a thread discussing the video game industry, I thought it would be appropriate to have a thread discussing the practices and going ons of the film and tv industries. Especially in light of recent news surrounding the sets of Batwoman and Rust.

This will not be about films and tv shows but rather about the practices and behind-the-scenes news affecting the industries.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#351: Jun 23rd 2023 at 10:29:14 AM

Animators who worked on Across The Spider-Verse discuss the harsh working conditions behind the film's success.

[MOD EDIT: Don't post the whole article here. A small blurb is fine.]

Edited by Berrenta on Jun 24th 2023 at 10:27:08 AM

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#352: Jun 23rd 2023 at 11:16:51 AM

And the editor of the movie confirmed there are two different versions of the film.

This means they did a whole bunch more work than was necessary.

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#354: Jun 24th 2023 at 4:39:32 PM

It's also noted that the actors will likely strike by the end of the month, too.

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#355: Jun 24th 2023 at 6:39:20 PM

Last writer’s strike in 2008 took a hundred days, so companies conceding that early feels like a Trojan.

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#356: Jun 24th 2023 at 6:49:24 PM

This time, it feels like an inminent trifecta. And who knows who else would strike if given the chance. Hollywood is about to freeze if they don't get their heads out of their asses fast.

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Shaoken Since: Jan, 2001
#357: Jun 25th 2023 at 12:26:16 AM

The Director's Guild won't strike as they got everything they wanted, however what they wanted is also things the SAG wants so they're more emboldened to keep striking.

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#358: Jun 29th 2023 at 4:44:42 AM

IIRC the Directors have a deal but the Union hasn't officially accepted it yet? So in theory there is a nice deal on the table they could accept but they might be waiting to see what happens with the Writers and the Actors. Especially important since many directors are ALSO writers.

Shaoken Since: Jan, 2001
#359: Jun 29th 2023 at 2:30:21 PM

Under the rules you can't strike if offered a deal you'd accept, that's negotiating in bad faith.

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#360: Jun 29th 2023 at 2:43:28 PM

Have them confirmed that they’d accept it? They’d presumably need to ballot for that.

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#362: Jun 30th 2023 at 2:45:38 PM

A fire broke out at the Warner Bros studio lot in Burbank. It appears to be contained at the moment. No word yet on what caused it, or if there are any injuries.

At least with the upcoming strike, any necessary repairs to the place can be done without them hindering any productions.

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#363: Jul 5th 2023 at 2:58:12 PM

SAG-AFTRA and the AMPTP have agreed to an extension to the contract negotiations, extending them until July 12th. SAG's contract was supposed to expire midnight Saturday, but agreed to an extension as they continue to try and get a good deal for their members.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#364: Jul 7th 2023 at 10:54:36 AM

An article by insider on how studios are reliant on influencers.

Castrillo, who has over 300,000 followers on Tik Tok, is just one of many influencers who movie studios, networks, and streamers enlist to get the word out about new releases. While cultivating relationships with well-connected people in hopes of creating buzz for a product is nothing new, Tik Tok's explosive growth among Gen Z and millennials has made partnering with influencers a must-have for film studios looking to score opening weekend. And now influencers are using their newfound cachet with filmmakers to make it off the apps and onto the big screen.

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#365: Jul 7th 2023 at 2:20:54 PM

So, when do you think that the Writers Strike might end?

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#366: Jul 7th 2023 at 2:28:06 PM

[up] When the studios buckle. These things are extremely hard to predict.

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#367: Jul 7th 2023 at 3:39:22 PM

Took 100 days in the strike of 2008 and that disrupted so conceding it now seems like a trap. I feel like the difference is companies believe they have an arsenal to replace writers with and will only be beat when they realize, “Shit, we actual need writers”

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#368: Jul 7th 2023 at 3:59:25 PM

Or if the actors hammer through the "no AI production" thing on their end.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#369: Jul 9th 2023 at 10:36:46 PM

Sarah Silverman is suing OpenAI and Meta for copyright infringement

Comedian and author Sarah Silverman, as well as authors Christopher Golden and Richard Kadrey — are suing Open AI and Meta each in a US District Court over dual claims of copyright infringement.

The suits alleges, among other things, that Open AI’s Chat GPT and Meta’s L La MA were trained on illegally-acquired datasets containing their works, which they say were acquired from “shadow library” websites like Bibliotik, Library Genesis, Z-Library, and others, noting the books are “available in bulk via torrent systems.”

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#370: Jul 10th 2023 at 9:44:36 PM

This could potentially be very big if it goes through.

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#371: Jul 11th 2023 at 4:42:16 PM

So it sounds like they’re bringing in Federal Mediators to prevent the SAG strike.

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Shaoken Since: Jan, 2001
#372: Jul 11th 2023 at 5:11:01 PM

Doubt it will work, dealing with the strike is the job of the movie studios. Federal Government aren't going to get involved.

I heard the studios were spooked because they were planning to outsource international to get around strikes and suddenly that's off the table.

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#373: Jul 11th 2023 at 5:38:12 PM

[up] Oh why is it off the table?

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#374: Jul 11th 2023 at 5:39:11 PM

Federal mediators aren’t actually an oddity in this case; one such mediator was brought in during the weeks leading up to the 2007 writers’ strike, though that one very clearly failed, so it’s not a given that an accord’s going to be reached even if they bring in a third-party into this.

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#375: Jul 11th 2023 at 6:19:56 PM

I'm going to note that part of the reason the studios really don't seem to like the idea of bringing in a federal mediator and are really slow to pull that particular trigger is because when you contrast the demands, the studios come out looking really bad.

That's the fun bit about dealing with a federal mediator. You have to lay out your logic for your position to an uninvolved third party. WGA and SAG-AFTRA can do that easily. "We want to be able to make a living doing a job we love." The studios are going to be stuck having to explain why their record-breaking profits mean they can't afford to pay the people necessary for their profits to exist enough money to live on.

That was what backfired with the mediator in 2007, because the studios couldn't argue why "we want enough to live" and "we make too much money to afford paying people" weren't a good argument to allow them to pay people in table scraps. And, no matter what the hollywood accounting is like, the studio argument exists in a context that boils it down to "we make too much money to pay people".

Edited by Zendervai on Jul 11th 2023 at 9:24:01 AM

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