General V-Tuber thread

Well, seems people have decided to start posting art on twitter with the AmeSame hashtag.

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Kiara's talk show with Marine as the guest starts in less than 10 minutes.

To pity someone is to tell them "I feel bad about being better than you."

Well, Soma straight up crashed Gura's computer. EN really can't get a technical break this week. Calli bricked an entire PS 4, Gura crashes her PC...

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GODDAMN ayame is cute

"Have a good day. Have a good week. Have a good month. Have a good year. Have a good life." ~Civia

Miko and a lava bucket. I guess shouldn't be surprised that the company is familiar with that in-joke considering the compilation video they made when Miko was away

Shark is too cute.

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Kiara's doing a "Karaoke until 500K subs" stream. She reached the goal in 10 minutes.

To pity someone is to tell them "I feel bad about being better than you."

It was a silly goal to set. She was at 498k before it even began.

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Any excuse for karaoke is a good excuse.

Edit: Huh, I was more right than I realized now that I've had a chance to listen to the stream. Kiara says she knew she was going to hit 500k pretty soon and decided she might as well have a preemptive karaoke celebration.

Edited by Parable on Nov 23rd 2020 at 7:13:52 AM

"What a century this week has been." - Seung Min Kim

Apparently there's a new VTuber talent agency started recently, mostly with English language performers and with some streamers in the upper management.

And if nothing else, seeing the word "VTuber" in the Hollywood Reporter was... not something I expected to read today.

Projekt Melody, Nyanners, Silvervale, ironmouse... that's a lot of big name Western Vtubers.

The CEO is a competitive games streamer, huh? Wonder what ramifications that might have for the internal relationships between talents, and between talents & management, since the latter are 'in the game' in addition to overseeing it...

My first launched Trope!

Vshojo sounds like it's the western type of talent agency, not the eastern—Acting as go-betweens and legal help for the talent, not actively managing them

I do find taking kayfabe overly seriously disturbing for real though

Mother's Basement just released a video where he talks about the appeal of V Tubers:

Bumbleby is best ship. busy spending time on r/RWBY and r/anime. Unapologetic Socialist

Canada got into another superchat war, this time whilst Gura was playing SOMA.

It's about 6:30 that she starts making weird noises.

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If this is re: the thing a few pages back... to me, breaking a V-Tuber's kayfabe to a fellow fan/audience member is comparable to giving spoilers for a work. It's venturing information that others don't want to acquire out of turn, and which can't be easily unknown once known. I think that's a key part of why spoiler etiquette is what it is. Plenty of people spoil out of excitement rather than malice, but it's still important to be able to check yourself.

Ergo, we might want to assume by default that people don't want out-of-nowhere identity reveals for V-Tubers in the same way we assume people don't want to be arbitrarily spoiled on fiction.

My first launched Trope!

Perhaps but "I want to know nothing about real people so I can keep up the fantasy kayfabe about the character being real" is similar to "I don't want anybody to tell me santa claus is real so I can pretend that he is real even if I know it already"

Like umm. There is real person somewhere, so I think it matters more what the person behind the character wants than what audience wants. Which, while yes I assume it to be to be kept their real identity private, doesn't mean I can't find the fan reaction disturbing when it makes people be really angry.

Like yeah, I get the "Man, I didn't want to know, now I feel spoiled" comparison, but I also don't get people raging about spoilers I also find it kinda disturbing when someone becames way too angry about spoilers

Edited by SpookyMask on Nov 26th 2020 at 11:13:20 AM

They also clearly don't want people to know, and we already lost one JP member just to finding prior accounts. Due to cultural differences EN is pretty much immune to it because 3/5 of them are blatant open secrets and one of the others isn't all that hard to find out, but there is also a lot of intentionally deleted and privatised material. Also Calli asked explicitly.

The point is that people get angry because you're telling them things that the vtubers themselves have asked or implied you shouldn't poke into too much?

Edited by RainehDaze on Nov 26th 2020 at 9:16:14 AM

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That is more valid to me, though I'm not sure how many fans get angry on behalf of their idols? Like most people get only angry on behalf of their friends, loved ones and close friends.

I consider getting angry reaaaaaaaaaally big deal I rarely get genuinely angry, I'm type to literally scream until my throat dies out when I get angry.

Basically I consider "getting annoyed/frustrated" different from "becoming angry".

Edited by SpookyMask on Nov 26th 2020 at 12:21:31 PM

Regardless of whether you "get it" or not, just don't do it, yeah? It's not hard to not do something.

To pity someone is to tell them "I feel bad about being better than you."

You’re getting way to aggressive about this stuff.

I suppose to people who perceive being told what to do as a heinous attack against them and all they stand for telling someone not to do something can come off as "aggressive".

To pity someone is to tell them "I feel bad about being better than you."

No but repeatedly being a dick to people who don’t really get it is rather aggressive.

Kara's first song just premiered!

And here's the after party livestream!

"What a century this week has been." - Seung Min Kim