My Hero Academia - Manga Spoiler thread (Untagged spoilers)

That's when AFO will solidify himself as a walking 'It was me Barry' meme.

I was sad at AFO not getting to be decayed away, so hoping it goes that way now. C'mon Deku, cinnamon roll Shigaraki into getting rid of that asshole for good.

It was always a chance, I think people just didnt want to admit it. What are the chances the highly unethical doctor just happened to be dekus and did absolutely nothing to him?

I suspect that if Deku had a quirk that was stolen, one of the quirks AfO stole would be an obvious fit, and I don't think that's the case.

In contrast, if Decay is not Tenko's original quirk, Airwalk is a fairly strong contender to be his actual quirk.

Edited by thok on Mar 29th 2024 at 6:36:10 AM

Air Walk does fit as a "natural" continuation of Float, and honestly it'd be fucked if AFO took Tenko's original quirk vecause of Kotaro's personal baggage and then just replaced it with decay to have his "Perfect Body"

Edited by jdeo1997 on Mar 29th 2024 at 9:42:01 AM

The fandom and All for One, summarized by the Croods(2013)

Ok, this chapter contains both one of the things I hoped for (Shigaraki realizing his true motivation is not just destroying, but being a champion/"hero" for everyone who hates society) and the one thing I hoped would not happen (AFO being even more involved in being the root of all evil).

Let's see how this goes... for now, every chapter keeps impressing me with amazing art, at the very least.

Oh, god. We really are having AFO responsible for everything, aren’t we?

...

This fucking sucks. And you even had the perfect refutation made; Shigaraki wanting to be a hero for the villains, for his actual friends, making himself incompatible to Deku that way. Nope, AFO time. Worse, it might be going beyond simply giving Tenko a Quirk; he might have actually planned this entire shindig from start to finish, and Nana's plan of giving up Kotaro never had legs to stand on (let's kick her while she's down too, why not?)

God, this really is going to be "AFO was defeated and everything was fixed ever". Any faults of the Hero Society are going to be swept under the rug, left unaddressed, and we're just going to go back to status quo (except good because Turbo Mega Satan-Hitler over there is gone).

I am interested in how much Kotaro is going to be involved in this, at least, but this is such a cold comfort I can use it as an icepack.

deku as aknowledged his society h problems and he wants to bring them into the light, unless it turns out the hero comishioner who had heroes working as assassins was working for afo too. also even if ofa was behind it shiggy still wants to be a hero for his friends, I dont see him suddenly turning good because afo groomed him more than he knows

"I suspect that if Deku had a quirk that was stolen, one of the quirks Af O stole would be an obvious fit, and I don't think that's the case."

It would be so funny if it turns out deku's qurik was hyper regeneration all along and that's why they only got ahold of that quirk"recently" (mentioned super early in the Manga to explain why afo's face is still that way) and why deku sees no issues constantly breaking his bones over and over (his body's muscle memory keeps trying to make something that isn't there anymore activate)

Incredibly lame and the perfect summation of why I checked out emotionally out of the story after the peak of all might and bakugo beating afo, but so funny.

Edited by Yumil on Mar 30th 2024 at 12:40:33 PM

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if Shiggy keeps that desire even after he plays Vader to Af O's Palpatine and throws him down a metaphorical reactor shaft. That might be workable.

I fully expect that.

It's been clear that Shiggy has been deviating from AFO for some time.

He's finally found his resolve and his own reason to be a hero. Now Deku need only convince him that destroying hero society isn't what he needs to do to protect his friends.

That's going to be hard.

Solving the problems of the Hero Society would always have been an unreachable narrative goal, because that would mean having to unravel the setting the author himself has created, and pulling that off on top of providing action would be a pipe dream. Like, how do you even do it in a way that feels satisfying and not half baked but also doesn't feel like it's unbelievably idealistic.

also rebuilding it in a way that doesnt lead to more harm takes time, the best we could hope for is a time skip showing things are better, like heteromorph are more accepted, more rehabilitive stuff for criminals etc. etc.

Well, at least the rotten parts of it, namely the ruling authority within the HPSC, have been taken out already (thanks "Re-Destro") so replacing them with morally sound and competent people instead will go a long way in fixing the current system, I believe.

Yeah people.

This manga may be a bit more darker and mature than most Shonens but it's still a Shonen at heart. Raziel even said such explorations would be better reserved for Seinens.

A story where a high schooler fixes Fantastic Racism and Bystander Syndrome would never have been a realistic outcome, anyways. The biggest problems in this series don't stem from corruption, poorly-written laws, or self-proclaimed demon kings, but from intrinsic flaws in human nature.

Course, if y'all want a story where Deku goes off on how awful "Hero Society" is and burns it all to the ground, there's approximately ten thousand fanfics with that premise.

Considering how much is inexplicably connected back to All For One, I'm not so sure.

Edited by diddyknux on Mar 31st 2024 at 6:57:54 AM

I don't necessarily mind it being idealistic, since this is a fairly idealistic series. But, that might have been an issue Hori created for himself, just like he needed to create a contrived scenario with S&S to "depower" Shiggydiggy. Not all problems stem from AFO (MLA or heteromorph discrimination, for one; incidentally, both are basically done with as soon as they first appear), but an increasing number of them does, and I feel like that really takes away from the tragedy of villains being people who fell through the cracks and had no one to turn to.

Of course, you could argue that Shigaraki in particular would be something AFO would oversee himself, but we've gone from "AFO picks Shiggy off the street after monitoring the situation at home" to "AFO had orchestrated the entire thing from start to finish".

Were they rotten though? They've done some morally dubious things (picking Hawks off the street when he was still a kid), but most of the terrible things we learn about them were from the previous Commission leadership some years back - and we only learn about it long after the Commission is gone.

At the end of the day, I don't expect a detailed political dissertation about how exactly Hero Society needs to be fixed - but Deku, as in the protagonist, did say there's a problem and it needs to be fixed and that was before AFO was revealed to have a staggeringly pervading level of influence over things. If we're just going to offload all of the warts of Hero Society onto one superpowerful asshole, then why even bother teasing all the possible issues that may need to be fixed to begin with?

It really doesn't help that AFO has gone way long past having tolerable screentime. I mean, he's dead and yet he's still back for one last go.

Edited by FergardStratoavis on Mar 31st 2024 at 2:25:13 PM

Knew Vestige AFO was not done. I expected this for a long time. Shiggy never made a decision that made him follow a path other than the one AFO laid before him.

The heteromorph discrimination is particularly interesting and/or a bit of a missed opportunity, since based solely on information we already have, we can identify a genuine systemic issue that would lead to the problems observed (and, importantly, said systemic issue is something that could actually be solved!), but this wasn't really mentioned in the story proper.

Fact: Even the PLA heteromorph spokesperson agrees that things are basically fine in the cities, it's the rural areas where things are bad.

Fact: It's been mentioned previously that pro heroes are paid per case they resolve.

Extrapolation: Pro heroes are incentivized to work where there are more cases to resolve, which means areas with more people ... which means cities.

Extrapolation: Things are bad in the rural areas due to insufficient enforcement of existing laws against assault and murder, due to an incentive structure that causes the rural areas to be systematically under-policed.

Solution: Change the incentive structure to encourage better law-enforcement coverage of rural areas, so that crimes against heteromorphs in those areas can actually be punished.

I wouldn't expect all heroes to focus on that, since cities still have more people in them, but ideally you'd have some subset that do focus on it, particularly those with Quirks that make them good at covering a lot of territory. Fast movement, remote information gathering, whatever works. Koda could actually be pretty good at that ...

Edited by Shinziril on Mar 31st 2024 at 12:06:41 PM

So, given Shiggy's answer, what could be his final fate?

Rody’s hometown in World Heroes Mission also supports the lack of heroes in low-pop areas IIRC.

And Mt. Lady moved to a city to try to make it big as well.

IIRC The only non-urban heroes we see are Selkie (who does mainly marine rescues) and the Pussycats (same but with mountains)

Though the latter have enough capital to own an entire mountain and forest, so ???

Edited by asterism on Mar 31st 2024 at 11:55:04 AM