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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#2001: Jan 14th 2021 at 4:15:34 PM

Tiamat@ That was pretty much me. I couldn't past the level that gave you the free unit and i was still getting use to the gameplay.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#2002: Jan 14th 2021 at 5:03:58 PM

Oh bloody Hell, Mudrock, I fucking hated her boss stage.

Can't say anything about the Rat King, though, I missed that event.

In fact, I missed a lot of Events, but what can you do.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#2003: Jan 14th 2021 at 5:13:20 PM

Anyway, the point is that events have been getting harder each time in order to provide an interesting challenge to long-time players, so as the 2nd event HoSF will likely seem relatively easy.

TiamatRoar Since: Apr, 2013
#2004: Jan 14th 2021 at 11:21:28 PM

Yea, Pompeii was only troublesome because everyone was still relatively young and not fully leveled. Back then I just face tanked it with frigging Lapland and an Ao E healer.

Worse comes to worse, if we get the Thorns banner, a newer player could probably just gacha up and upgrade 4 star Jaye and make him turn Pompeii into dinner or something.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#2005: Jan 14th 2021 at 11:29:16 PM

Or just go Ifrit + Eyja on its ass.

Because a flamethrower and a magma bombardment is totally the best way deal with a walking volcano. [lol]

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#2006: Jan 15th 2021 at 6:34:44 AM

[up] I think a certain Thanos meme might be apt here. tongue

TiamatRoar Since: Apr, 2013
#2007: Jan 15th 2021 at 8:06:10 PM

I mention Jaye because he's a 4 star and the banner operator. He should be very easy to pull for and as a four-star he's very cheap to upgrade, unlike Ifrit or Eyja. IIRC, he's pretty much an "I win" thing vs Pompeii, who has low defense and is Ao E focused but Jaye can self heal so doesn't need a medic as much, and is also fast-redeploy so if he does somehow die, you can just toss him back to battle again in a bit.

Edited by TiamatRoar on Jan 15th 2021 at 8:08:10 AM

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#2008: Jan 16th 2021 at 9:57:09 AM

Alright turns out you don't need chips to promote 3 stars.

That said I am still gonna dedicate the weekend to farming a set of each available chip and LMD (so at least 3 Defender chips and 6 of the rest) so that I'll have enought to promote 2 4*+ operates of each role (Gummy is already E1)

EDIT: Also managed to 3 star the tier 3 supply missions. Which should make things slightly easier. BTW I've notice that the supply mission chains seem to have different level curves. Like one chain recommends E1 units for T3, while another just recommends level 40 unpromoted units and a third needs E1 L10 units for the same tier.

EDIT 2: finally got Cuora! no I just need to get Perfumer.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Jan 16th 2021 at 3:27:07 AM

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#2009: Jan 16th 2021 at 8:04:41 PM

Jaye has been confirmed. As Tiamat Roar has said, this guy is a really good 4 star. Also we will indeed be getting Thorns banner. Goodluck!

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Billy5545 An eagle from The sky Since: Nov, 2017
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#2010: Jan 16th 2021 at 11:49:16 PM

For me, I only have 20 rolls done since the last time I got a 6 star (the limited banner not counted as it doesn't count to regular pity rate), so unless if I luck out on the 5 star or above guarantee and get Thorns, I'll just keep rolling to guarantee on his plus whoever new 6 star banner will come after him (maybe Eunectes) to build my pity rate for Surtr.

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MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#2011: Jan 17th 2021 at 6:05:40 AM

I'm just gonna use around 10 pulls for the guaranteed 5* and then save for the next banner

Billy5545 An eagle from The sky Since: Nov, 2017
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#2013: Jan 17th 2021 at 6:42:14 AM

[up] Tbh Lauli is one of the best lore veterans on the subject of AK lore

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MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#2014: Jan 17th 2021 at 7:17:34 AM

Alright I got Cuora, Elysium and SilverAsh to E1. Gonna farm 3 Guard and Supporter chips...and then LMD to recoup the 55k spent.

I understand that SA's S2 is no Schwing schwing, but I'd still like opinions on the aforementioned units' newfound talents and E2 regardless (Also Gummy's S2 in the context of Pompeii).

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Jan 17th 2021 at 7:24:19 AM

Billy5545 An eagle from The sky Since: Nov, 2017
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#2015: Jan 17th 2021 at 7:31:51 AM

[up] Cuora is fine to work at E1 max as a lot of 4 stars tend to not be an E2 priority (except Myrtle), though E2 increases her defense buff talent. Meanwhile, Elysium's talent to reduce the DP of all snipers when deployed and increase their ASPD when activating his skill will both be enhanced at E2. And SA will gain both his S3 and a talent to reveal invisible enemies.

Also doing E2 will also unlock further individual skill upgrade that is called mastery.

Edit: As for Gummy, her RNG based talent will be improved in all aspects, with better chance, increased attack power and stun duration at E2. Also I think it's more effective to just use Gummy S1 for Pompeii tanking as S2 has more healing downtime.

Edited by Billy5545 on Jan 17th 2021 at 10:34:06 PM

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#2016: Jan 17th 2021 at 7:36:15 AM

Basic pattern for E1/E2 upgrades is 4/5* get their second ability at E1 and talent upgrade at E2 while 6* get their second talent/third ability at E2.

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#2017: Jan 17th 2021 at 7:41:38 AM

[up][up], [up] I made a typo was was suppose to say "S2", but I'll take that insight into account regardless.

Though it still leaves SA's S2 undiscussed.

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#2018: Jan 17th 2021 at 7:43:47 AM

It makes him good for tanking stuff because of his passive regen and buffed defense so if you want a specific chokepoint with annoying enemies to be held off, that makes him a decent option.

Billy5545 An eagle from The sky Since: Nov, 2017
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#2019: Jan 17th 2021 at 7:44:55 AM

Yeah, SA S2 basically makes him a two block defender with higher than defender average ATK.

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MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#2020: Jan 17th 2021 at 7:47:28 AM

That's prolly gonna be good because I'm thinking on benching Vanilla for Courier or Myrtle (assuming I get her) and from what I gather, the latter works simialr to Elysum's in that her DP charge also lets mobs slip right past her.

Billy5545 An eagle from The sky Since: Nov, 2017
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#2021: Jan 17th 2021 at 8:08:20 AM

Yeah. You usually use flagbearers like Myrtle and Elysium by placing them in an isolated spot and let their superior DP generation to allow you summon stronger units quickly. Meanwhile DP-on-skill and DP-on-kill vanguards are both used to block early waves, with the former more on blocking two while generating DP, while the latter focuses on killing trash mob quickly due to their block one, but higher ATK than other VG archetypes.

Edited by Billy5545 on Jan 17th 2021 at 11:08:38 PM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#2022: Jan 17th 2021 at 8:44:53 AM

SA's S2 boosts his defense to a crikey level, higher than even the best 6* Operators (over 9000 800, 50 points higher than Nian), he can't get it much higher than that and his 2 Block gets in the way of proper defensive duties.

And AK, particularly later on, is ultimately all about proper timing, so a Cuora with her S2 will always outperform him at tanking.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#2023: Jan 17th 2021 at 8:49:26 AM

Most Guards are not suitable tank/defender replacements, yeah. There are some who can hold down a low-enemy-intensity lane on their own, like Specter, Hellagur or Blaze, or who can manage on their own with a healer, but generally you'll always want a proper defender for the main lane(s) in a map.

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#2024: Jan 17th 2021 at 8:50:54 AM

The skill is pretty good for drawing away fire from squishier units if the map's challenge mode/Contingency Contract tag bans Defenders from your party.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#2025: Jan 17th 2021 at 9:36:10 AM

[up][up]AOE Guards are the exception, but only if they can kill the enemy units fast enough.

Also they need to be E2 for that to work, and their DP cost is higher than Defenders.


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