Fire Emblem Three Houses (Spoiler Thread)

Almyrans view them as cowards which is some pretty deep Insane Troll Logic to come to.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 11th 2019 at 4:38:33 AM

Three Houses practically holding an Insane Troll logic competition.

Do we know much about Dagda? I know it's where Shamir's from and it fought a war with Adresteia, but not much other than that.

That it's believe to be a single biome continent when it's pretty diverse.

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I found an interesting look at Hegemon Edelgard and the story beats that lead her there. I can't really say if it's accurate or not, but it sounds like it rings true.

1. Edelgard actually dislikes losing control, and so she's never the one who does that, They pretty much say Hubert wrote that letter in secret just in case, to make their actions mean something, and we know for a fact Hubert DOES do things for her without her knowkedge.

2. They were not subtle at one point with the Shambhalla theme playing for her and not a Dubstepper, and the reason is making clear that Edelgard had willingly become as bad as Those who Slither in the Dark at the end of Azure Moon. For all her pretext that a inhuman creature shouldn't lead humanity, she turned herself willingly into an inhuman monster because she believes herself to be the only one fit to rule humanity.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 11th 2019 at 6:07:41 AM

I thought that she went all demon dragon because she was desperate to win against Dimitri?

Fo Edelgard it's always go big or go home. It's either absolute win or death. No middleground, no compromise, no contingency.

For many that's either her winning trait or her worst trait. I know where I stand.

I don't know enough specifics of the end of Azure Moon to say specifically about that branch, but it's a characterization that does speak well of her in my book. Any commander willing to send soldiers to their deaths, even if they believe in the cause, ought to be willing to fight to the death herself.

Also, Omega, as far as I know, even in the other routes, Edelgard's plan is to unite Fodlan, rule for a few years while she institutes her reforms and roots out the Dubsteps, and then step down for a qualified, competent person and end the Hraesvelg dominion over Adrestia - that's her plan even during the Academy phase.

As much as I think lowly of Edelgard in most aspects, I don't hold the Hegemon form morally against her. It's a last ditch weapon to win a battle she thinks is morally just, she doesn't attack her own army in the process, and it seems like she's able to revert back safely so that she can properly lead the empire once the war is over.

The actual problem is that in order to safely create that form she (or TWS, frankly I don't see much reason to separate them during the war) almost certainly experimented on others to refine the process until it became what it is, and I'd be surprised if they conducted those experiments ethically.

Plus like the transformation is not permanent.

She gaves up throne only in two endings, both of them is in her later years, and way it's phrased she rulled even after she finished reforms in those two routes.

You mean slides right? She only has one route.

Yes, her endings say "later years", but they also say "after tireless work and great sacrifice" - she stepped down when her work was done, not when someone pried her off a tyrant's throne with a crowbar. She started the war as a means to the end of achieving her goals of a freer society; she wasn't going to just run a war and then leave someone else to pick up the pieces.

It never said "stepped down AFTER she was done" it was "They instituted new class reforms PERIOD. In later years they stepped down PERIOD"

There is nothing indicate she didn't rulle as long as any other monarch would.

Edited by Tenzen12 on Sep 12th 2019 at 12:11:32 PM

^Which is also fair, but how is that a bad thing or an indication that she's greedier for the throne than average?

And hey, reforming a century old system does not happen in a few years, nor does picking a successor. Additionally, she DOES step down eventually so at least she kept her promise of no Fodlan under tyrants, including her, unlike real life dictatorships that go on despite being " temporary measures ".

Every king that doesn't die first eventually step down. Point Eldegard did it NOT because she didn't desire rule whole Fodlan, but because she already had her fill. Even if she ended be benevolent tyrrant she is still is one and given we didn't hear about anything decentralisation of power so is her "worthy successor".

It's not about her being greedier then any other king, though given her ambitions she is certainly on greedier side alongside such as Nobunaga, Napoleon or Kublai. Point is you said she planned rule few years and step down, implying she is not interested in rulling beyond pushing few reforms and that's simply not the case.

Edited by Tenzen12 on Sep 12th 2019 at 2:10:23 PM

Her changing of rule was done like any other emperor who chose based not on bloodline but what they felt was right, and they still rule for decades. Which if you also know history typically didn't end well as their successor is not as well liked or viewed worthy in history. Only certain exceptions to that rule existed.

Even the title Hegemon is based on her being an Authoritarian who will rule over all as long as she desires till they pass it on to their successor, exactly like Rhea.

But with much more power.

Is Edel's life truncated in the same way Lysithea's is? Could explain her methods at least.

There's the one flaw in Edelgard's plan that no one ever questions.

Edlegard: Yay! I created a perfectly free society where meritocracy actually works. Now I can die in peace

Edlegard proceeds to die in peace

Edlegard's successor or their successor or etc: Heh heh! This is stupid and I'm corrupt! I'm gonna go Begnion Senate up in this bitch.

At least Rhea has a long lifespan. I don't know how on Earth does Edlegard think her vision will last 5 seconds after she dies in, at best, 70 years.

Who knows. It is very likely, but Sothis blood has super special healing powers and she could easily be fine after a few years of sleeping/"dead" nonstop.

Oh yeah a lot of those who disregard her ideals already know that a Meritocracy is a shitty idea, especially when all authority lies in the hands of one person.

Like for a Meritocracy to work in Shin megami Tensei they had to have a Alien god literally brainwash everyone to make it function as intended (and the same for the route where making everyone more empathetic in another route).

After all the problems with Crests aren't even the Crests themselves, it's the people

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 12th 2019 at 6:49:20 AM