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unknowing from somewhere..
Sep 14th 2020 at 10:50:03 AM

Also even if the force exist, is hard to said it have a "way" as it was sentinent being.

granted is one of those thing the lore move around so how knows.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world
That all you got?
Sep 14th 2020 at 10:51:06 AM

I'm not sure how Oscar Isaac feels about it. Poe still got a pretty good amount of focus.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.
RedHunter543 Nothing is absolute. Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Nothing is absolute.
Sep 14th 2020 at 10:51:11 AM

The force guides but does not control is the one thing that we all accept.

Sep 14th 2020 at 11:28:58 AM

Specifically, I would imagine all three would only come back if and only if they were convinced to come back together or knew the others were coming back.

Kind of a "I'm only doing this is John / Oscar / Daisy says yes" sort of thing.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 14th 2020 at 11:29:26 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world
That all you got?
Sep 14th 2020 at 2:46:30 PM

And I imagine they would have to be quite assured that the writing for their characters would be better.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.
Blueace Blue Reflection Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Blue Reflection
Sep 14th 2020 at 3:06:27 PM

The negotiations would be quite the sight, really.

slimcoder King Shark is a Shark
King Shark is a Shark
Sep 14th 2020 at 3:19:38 PM

Man I feel bad for Adam Driver since its not like he can negotiate future contracts to not be crap.

"It's been an honor to fight by your side."
Sep 14th 2020 at 4:11:22 PM

I think if Marvel was able to get Natalie Portman to reprise her role as Jane Foster, then they can get Daisy Riddley to reprise her role as Rey if the opportunity arises.

All it will take is the right pitch by the right people. Like let's say the Obi Wan series turns into a smash hit. That means it's director, Deborah Chow, is pretty much going to have a lot of choices if she wants to make another Star Wars projectnote . If Deborah Chow were to then pitch a series or movie that includes Rey, she will have the credibility needed to convince Daisy Riddley to come on board.

Or alternatively they'll do it exactly like Marvel did and have Taika Waititi ask her. He is making a Star Wars movie after all...

Edited by Falrinn on Sep 14th 2020 at 4:50:13 AM

miraculous The white haired vampire from South Africa
The white haired vampire
Sep 14th 2020 at 4:13:38 PM

Miniseries sounds about right. Theirs only so much we could see and it going on for years makes no sense as theirs only like so much he could fight their.

"I'm going to turn this hell back to what it used to be."
Sep 14th 2020 at 4:49:49 PM

[up] Yeah, and while I do think they can probably justify him taking a brief excursion offworld, there's only so much time he can spend away before it starts looking like he's just bad at his job.

A miniseries solves most of the potential problems with the concept of an Obi Wan series because it's just too short for those potential problems to become egregious.

RedHunter543 Nothing is absolute. Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Nothing is absolute.
Sep 14th 2020 at 8:07:24 PM

[up][up][up][up] Adam Driver has the most pull out of all the actors, like Kylo Ren had the most developed arc and best actor.

Which says a lot about the ST.

RedHunter543 Nothing is absolute. Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Nothing is absolute.
Sep 14th 2020 at 8:25:42 PM

IGNORE THIS. Server glitch.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 14th 2020 at 8:31:30 AM

jakobitis from Lots of places Relationship Status: I'm Clockwork and she's Quartz
Sep 15th 2020 at 8:46:26 AM

Driver had well received roles before, during and after the ST, he'll be fine. Isaac too has enough "proper actor" cred that he won't really be affected much by the fallout. Boyega and Ridley are the two most at risk of being dragged down by the sinking ship.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
Sep 15th 2020 at 9:10:27 AM

I don't know about that. Boyega has appeared in the not-Attack-On-Titan sequel and Ridley.... um...

Well Emilia Clarke still has a career, even after Game of Thrones

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
miraculous The white haired vampire from South Africa
The white haired vampire
Sep 15th 2020 at 9:26:10 AM

Didn't Bogyea's film bomb ?

Uh well daisy.....Was in Peter rabbit. That's uh something....

"I'm going to turn this hell back to what it used to be."
RedHunter543 Nothing is absolute. Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Nothing is absolute.
Sep 15th 2020 at 9:29:12 AM

Acting is a tough industry.

jakobitis from Lots of places Relationship Status: I'm Clockwork and she's Quartz
Sep 15th 2020 at 11:06:05 AM

Boyega might be better off transitioning into more of a stage actor where he can involve himself more in his causes without it being made a huge deal like movies tend to be.

For the record I am not questioning those causes or his beliefs but I feel that certain parties will pull the "keep his politics out of his films" card which he isn't established enough yet to survive. Which is a shame because he's a MUCH better actor than SW let him show.

Sep 15th 2020 at 11:10:22 AM

Just two day ago, Boyega had a public spat with an advertiser who replaced him in a Chinese ad with a local (because China) and quit over it. This isn’t going to stop any time soon it seems.

"That's right kid. Never play an ace when a two will do."
miraculous The white haired vampire from South Africa
The white haired vampire
Sep 15th 2020 at 11:14:37 AM

China still screwing him over even now.

"I'm going to turn this hell back to what it used to be."
unknowing from somewhere..
Sep 15th 2020 at 11:43:15 AM

"like Kylo Ren had the most developed arc and best actor."

Clearly another proof of the superiority of the dark side over the lighttongue

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world
That all you got?
Sep 15th 2020 at 12:29:10 PM

China's just a cesspit of racism to anything not Chinese so that goes without saying. Remember when Finn got a way less prominent spot in the Chinese version of the movie posters?

And I remember that after TFA, Ridley was also part of the Murder on the Orient Express music.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.
HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
Sep 15th 2020 at 12:32:19 PM

I'll not deny the Chinese government sucks, but I sort of feel like "China made them do it!" has becomes the new "Smothering editors/producers/upper management in general made them do it!" in terms of deflecting blame for flawed writing. tongue

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miraculous The white haired vampire from South Africa
The white haired vampire
Sep 15th 2020 at 12:34:35 PM

They dont need to do anything. Most films that hardcore pander to china like this dont end up doing well in china anyway. So their more or less shooting themselves in the foot.

Edited by miraculous on Sep 15th 2020 at 12:34:53 PM

"I'm going to turn this hell back to what it used to be."
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
Sep 15th 2020 at 12:36:21 PM

The problem is that there's a much clearer etiology connecting Chinese censorship than there is connecting Executive Meddling — a vaguely defined term that can encompass censorship, but also just, for example, a common sense directive to meet deadlines that grind against a director's rampant egomania.

The real danger is that Hollywood will increasingly self-censor — and already to an extent is — in an effort to anticipate the CCP's orthodoxy and "work towards the Fuhrer."

[up]Pandering towards China isn't precisely the same thing as satisfying CCP censors.

Actually, that brings up a good question: How representative of the average Chinese moviegoer is the CCP censorship policy?

Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Sep 15th 2020 at 3:39:31 PM

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Tuckerscreator from Traveling through the Multiverse Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Sep 15th 2020 at 2:16:38 PM

We've been discussing that in the Mulan thread. Mainland viewer response to the new Mulan has been fairly muted despite Disney practically making the movie according to a CCP checklist.

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