Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (spoilers obviously)

When I figured the Knights weren't going to get any characterization, I thought: "Maybe I can just turn off my smart brain and let my lizard brain enjoy a neat fight scene." Except I couldn't, because the overbudgeted cinematography shot everything so dark with sudden retina-piercing lightning flashes, making the screen painful to look at. Any choreography that might've been creative there got obscured either in too much shadow or too much light. It's the return of the lens flares but even worse. It wasn't until the home video releases that I even saw that Palpatine had his own red guards.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 24th 2020 at 7:57:21 AM

I liked Exegol itself, but damn could the brighting have been kicked up a notch.

@Librarian

Agreed TBH, TROS has priority issues, and they wouldn't quite fit in the others.

Edited by Kylotrope on Mar 24th 2020 at 6:01:52 AM

I don't even know why they even bothered to give Palpy his own guards a unique design ' then again like the Sith Eternal's own design they are barely in the movie enough to warrant making them distinct from the First Order other then to sell dem toys 'Cough Snowtroopers on Crait,Cough'

just reuse the Praetorian Guards ad have Rey soundly beat a bunch of them when she struggled with two or three by herself.

They did that in the original trilogy and prequels too. The Red Guards never got any chance to show off their supposedly-vaunted combat skills and the one time they actually attempted to do their jobs they got knocked unconscious immediately.

The Red guards were pretty much a leftover consequence of Luke going to the Imperial Palace in the first draft of ROTJ, Where Palpy would have the guards attack Luke as a test of his skills before pitting him against Vader.

IE give luke another fight to display his skills before the big showdown instead of against just Pirate rabble.

This was cut when ROTJ was streamlined hence why Palpy just dismisses them and they are NEVER seen again. ROTS well Its Fucking Yoda of course they have no chance even Palpy has second thoughts about fighting a pissed Yoda

Frankly the Praetorian Guard felt like what a Red Guard Fight should be so having them be around just so Rey has someone to beat up while Kylo is trying to reach her felt like once Again JJ only included it cause it was in ROTJ why shouldn't it be in Rise?

Honestly the most that was ever done with the Red Guard was with Carnor Jax and Kir Kanos from the Crimson Empire Follow Up to Dark Empire

Speaking of toys, you guys think that the report that the THEY FLY NOW! scene was to sell jetpack trooper toys?

... 'looks at how impractical the sand bikes are with their 'launch' move' Nah I doubt it

Are Jet pack troopers even on sale at toy stores? I know the Sith troopers are.

Ah yes jetpacks. A thing that's existed for over like 50 Years in universe with even random bounty hunters using them. Such a shocking surprise.

I’ve seen the sand bikes on sale around. And in LEGO form, the Jet Troopers are the most common minifigure in (aside from standard infantry) in First Order trooper packs.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 25th 2020 at 8:51:59 AM

It's surprising they'd even trust Stormtroopers with the equivalent to a tricycle, let alone every other ship or jetpack.

Is "They fly now!" used as a tagline in commercials? That would feel like a nice counterpoint to Buzz Lightyear's "Not a flying toy" from the original Toy Story.

"They fly now!" kind of has the air of a Forced Meme, to be honest.

I can’t help but think of Poe & Finn as total morons because of that moment.

They also show up in Rebels.

I read that scene as only 3PO was shocked, Finn sounded outraged (he didn't get one) and Poe sounded resigned as if to say "Of COURSE they fly now...because its OUR luck"

Head canon is that's how Kylo kept the troops under control. He gave them jet packs because jet packs are cool and Hux can only seethe wondering why he didn't think of that first.

Cool toys are an effective way to keep foot soldiers happy.

• "Hey, many, do you ever start to think about the people we're—"
• "Whoa, did you hear?! HQ just shipped us this sweet new DOOMLASER. It's the size of a TIE and can demolish a city block."
• "HOLY SHIT, I want to fire that. Someone look up the nearest uppity village. It is GO TIME."

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 25th 2020 at 11:32:36 AM

It's 200 credits per round though. it fires 10,000 rounds per minute, and as a result, it costs 400,000 credits to fire it for twelve seconds.

Still more cost-efficient than the Death Star.

Now how did Snoke pay for star killer and his big capital ship again?

The first bank of the first order?

Apparently, they somehow bankrupted the New Republic without the rest realizing, while they were also funding the fleet Palpatine somehow made in secret. Yeah, makes about as much sense as it sounds.

Yeah I made the observation that the First Order and Final Order were both embezzling the New republic and no one in the government notified ANYTHING.

Pretty much every time they try to explain things they just give birth to twenty more or just make the place look like an irreparable wreck. And these are the kind of people the heroes would have to work with to get anything bigger done.

Coulda just given the First Order a Star Forge and called it a day.

But no, gotta keep these bigger and bigger ships and superweapons out of their ass, destroy them, and despite being their capitol causes exactly 0 losses.

What makes it worse is that the destruction of the First Death Star already had the Empire reeling - they pumped a lot of money into this superweapon, only for it to be blown up on what was essentially its maiden voyage.

And that doesn't even go into the political blowback - destroying Alderaan - a pacifist core world - drove a lot of people into the Rebellion's arms.

Meanwhile, the First Order somehow goes a number bigger with less resources, still gets their shit blown up and just keeps trucking.

That would probably keep you at work for far more then you think. Might even be a worse problem.

Edited by fredhot16 on Mar 25th 2020 at 2:16:30 AM