Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (spoilers obviously)

Palpatine's lawyer: Your Honour, there is no way my client is that kid's biological father. Look at him!

That is a vile accusation. He bangs them on Plo Koon's desk for he is a man of taste and class.

We need a sitcom about this, Hahahahahah!

A lot of ROS feels like advertisement for EU stuff. Doesn't it?

With Sheev Jr. Pryde saying he fought in the previous wars, Zorii, Finns entire "arc" teasing how he's force sensitive. Lando and Jannah on an adventure.

When Pryde talks about past wars, I just assumed he was a Clone Wars veteran who also served as an Imperial officer during the Galactic Civil War.

Why not? Riches, power, fame... claiming that legacy isn't exactly an unattractive option. Especially if we're meant to infer that he was born legitimate and raised as a Palpatine . And if he wasn't, and is just a bastard child born when Palpatine raped his cleaning maid from Space Mexico, then why does Palpatine even give enough of a shit about him to have him hunted down?!

I know that, but it felt like they were teasing future stories featuring him in those eras.

Remember how TFA seemed to set up a new EU based on the Disney cast? I remember being people wondering if Kylo Ren, Hux and Phasma were being set up as an evil trio.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 21st 2020 at 9:36:56 AM

I’d like a Sheev Jr. that wants to rule the galaxy for non-evil reasons.

Sheev Jr: UNLIMITED CHARITY!!!!!!

Imagine if one of Palpatines presumed many offsprings was like, space Lelouch.

Much as I hate the ST and the bulk of the Disney EU, I have to admit that a story about Rey's parents would probably be a sad and poignant tale that I'd take a glance at.

That dude's life was probably hell.

Imagine he probably thought there was a window at some happiness in the immediate aftermath of the fall of the Empire and rise of the New Republic.

And then the First Order reared its ugly head, with Sith Cultist coming out of the woodworks in search of him.

Poor Sheev Jr. and wife.

Edited by MrSeyker on Feb 21st 2020 at 9:41:01 AM

What if Star Wars Lelouch accidentally mind tricked Snoke into blowing up the Hosnian system?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 21st 2020 at 9:39:31 AM

I got the impression that Palpatine only started caring about his offspring recently, and might not have even entirely been aware he had a kid.

I would say that, as he was recovering from Rot J, he realized that he needed an apprentice, someone to transfer his soul to or whatever. He had just been defeated by a father-son pair, and he started to think "hey, the power of family is pretty strong apparently. I wonder if I have any family". He then began stalking everyone he's ever boned before, then he found out he actually did have a kid.

Yeah, the film kinda feels like reading one of those Big Superhero Event comics that's just laden with hooks for the tie-in and spin-out comic writers to use. Lots of stuff is added that's basically begging someone to actually run with, while very little is conclusively addressed.

In addition to all the Ship Tease that doesn't go anywhere and the aforementioned "Hey, maybe someone could write a prequel about this plot point, wink wink" bits, there's also Poe's big confession that he never actually delivers, the big Sith crowd of shrouded figures that is never actually discussed or resolve in the film, what exactly "ALL THE SITH" is supposed to mean, the precise nature of how the f*ck Palps is alive, etc. etc.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 21st 2020 at 10:45:48 AM

Also, the Disney EU had an imperial talking about how Palpatine had no heirs, kids, and IIRC not even any wife or concubines.

Not to mention Operation Cinder, i.e. the contingency plan Palpatine had set up to ensure the Empire didn't outlive him.

I'm not sure it's specifically done with the intention of promiting tie-ins so much as the existence of those tie-ins has just encouraged really lazy writing in the films.

It's like, why waste time explaining anything at all about Rey's parents? Someone will write a tie-in novel detailing their whole lives! Why explain who the fuck General Pryde is and where he has been for the last nine movies where he was supposedly involded? Someone will write an elaborate biography explaining that he was one of the gunners in the battle of Utapau and personally commanded one of the Star Destroyers at the battle of Endor!

In a year's time, there will be tie-ins explaining it all, and someone will have helpfully catalogued all of it on Wookieepedia. I'm guessing that knowledge has just kind of led Abrams and his crew to not really give a shit about actually having sensical worldbuilding in the movie.

Couldn't the emperor/Kylo be lying about Rey being related as a ploy to get her on their side.

That'll probably be revealed in the next film, when a new director comes in.

I don't quite mind us not getting a full explaintion on Pryde, the empire is big after all, its just that line really feels like "Read all about it in February!"

Of course now I wonder how did he survive operation cinder?

Oh god, operation cinder is gonna become like order 66 where it's like "oh but 60 million people survived that so we still have stories to tell"

It’s inevitable we will see a next film, but does it have to be an immediate sequel?

Star Wars - Episode 33 1/3. The final insult.

...Yeah, the Democratic Government built in the wake of the demise of the First Order lasted about five minutes. Now the galaxy is ruled by um...the Crimson Empire. Of course there’s a a rebel group using X-Wings, so you know how it goes...

Operation Cinder is just another example of Disney MO intended to wipe the slate clean from potential ties to the old EU in favor of their own brand new lore, which is then completely undone when the next movie in their pipline comes out and director/writer decided otherwise because they have no plan at all.

Edited by MrSeyker on Feb 21st 2020 at 10:07:42 AM

What was Operation Cinder again?

To paraphrase what I said before.

NEW New republic:do we have to take out the second imperium....I mean first order rule wasn't THAT bad

Poe:Fine, ill take a group on my own to do it. We shall call ourselves the Isurgency.

Lando and Chewie:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-1qju6V1jLM

Palpatine arranged for the empire and all its officers to be destoyed once he died in a galaxy scale Taking You with Me. Remember the battle of Jakku? That was supposed to wipe out both sides.

Edited by Kylotrope on Feb 21st 2020 at 8:05:33 AM

Killing the entirety of the Empire's remnants and wrecking most of the Galaxy, if not all, out of Palpatine's spite for having died.

It was carried out by one of his close non-Sith apprentices, Gallius Rax, but thwarted by an Enemy Mine