Captain Marvel - Spoilers

The Reality stone should have limited range, or the other stones would be pointless.

Presumably that's what the Convergence is for. The anomalies caused by the weakening barriers between the realms allows the Reality Stone's effects to spread out everywhere as opposed to being localized.

The Snap otoh presumably relied on the Space Stone to spread out anywhere and everywhere.

Edited by M84 on Apr 17th 2019 at 7:58:56 PM

I suspect that since Wanda and Pietro were the only test subjects that survived that the stone unlocked or enhanced potential that was already there

And part of super speed is speeding up the brain fast enough to react in time so it kinda makes sense

I still think they can use that to explain the introduction of mutants to the setting. Exposure to the Infinity Gems gives some people mutations. Or you could say they already had the mutant X-gene, but it was dormant in the people who had it until an Infinity Gem activated it.

So Pietro and Wanda are mutants and the Space Gem triggered or activated their mutation. And then 3 billion people were suddenly erased and (presumably) restored by the Infinity Gems....

Of course, you'd still need to assert that now that this has happened, new mutants won't need the Infinity Gems to activate their mutations. Otherwise, it's just a different flavor of Inhuman.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 17th 2019 at 6:48:39 AM

Or you just leave the Mutants out of the mix for now.

In the Marvel comics at least it's explained that so-called "baseline" humans (those who aren't Mutants, Inhumans, Eternals, or Deviants) actually have latent potential for developing superpowers provided they get exposed to just the right kind of trigger. A consequence of early humanity being experimented upon by the godlike Celestials.

That's why some people who become exposed to gamma radiation Hulk Out instead of dying of radiation sickness.

Edited by M84 on Apr 17th 2019 at 9:34:51 PM

Maybe some of this stuff will be explained in the Eternals.

That's not going to happen and you know it.

The conversation happening at Marvel right now isn't "Should we bring in the X-Men?" but rather "How do we bring in the X-Men?"

I suggested something similar in the main MCU thread. Only, just have it that anyone fiddling around with an Infinity Stone gets a random fetus to become a Mutant. For example, have the first Mutants be born around 1944-1945 due to Hydra messing around with the Tesseract / Space Stone and that Wendy / Mar-vell using the Tesseract / Space Stone in the 1980s caused some yet-to-be-born fetuses to be Mutants. This continues whenever the other Stones had been used and depending on how Avengers: Endgame ends, whatever will happen to all six Stones might cause a massive event that will be related to more Mutants.

I am actually pretty sure that we won't get to see the mutants anytime soon.

Yeah, Kevin Feige has said that they have no plans to use the X-Men or mutants at least within the next four to five years.

Granted, Feige might lie, but it makes sense to let the mutants be for a while. There is just no hurry. The MCU is fine without them.

Even in the comics the Mutants always seemed somewhat...disconnected from the rest of the Marvel verse. Superman Stays Out of Gotham was very much in play with the X-Men.

Part of that is Claremont didn't play well with others outside a few exceptions and set the tone where the X-Men were off doing their own thing with minimal interaction with the larger universe.

Well, I for my part won't be unhappy about a lack of X-men.

Yes, yes we get it, you don’t want the X-Men here.

Add something new if your gonna say it multiple times on the same page.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 17th 2019 at 9:09:50 AM

Bob Iger has noted that Marvel Studios already plans to inevitably incorporate the X-Men, so we shouldn’t act as though they’re avoiding their introduction.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 17th 2019 at 9:10:32 AM

I bet she she supports the sentinel program!

Edited by Ultimatum on Apr 17th 2019 at 4:10:29 PM

They’re integrating Deadpool right away, apparently.

But is Deadpool really a mutant? I say thee nay.

In the movies I think he is.

Deadpool already has groundwork laid to integrate. His first movie's climax took place on what was obviously a derelict Helicarrier. IIRC They tried to get Marvel to approve explicitly calling it a Helicarrier but the request was denied.

It's a cameo, but so was Captain America's shield in Iron Man 2. They just need to build on it.

Deadpool in the movies is a guy with a dormant mutant gene who had it forcibly activated by adrenaline torture.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Apr 17th 2019 at 9:25:00 AM

And I can’t help but think that hurt the series quite a bit. We’be all noted how it makes little sense for other Marvel heroes (especially the Avengers) to be doing so little to help mutants.

As good as Claremont and his run had been, a willingness to share the playground with others might have been a benefit.

To be fair, while Claremont's run has been praised for how well he handled all the characters, other writers were doing stuff like Avengers #200, aka "Ms. Marvel Gives Birth to Her Own Rapist and Goes to Live With Him in Another Dimension and Everyone is Happy About It."