Mortal Kombat 11

They turn into mk1 Reptile?

Huh they'd turn into a dragon then.

Shit bring in Onaga & you can re-contextualize who the MK dragon icon truly represents.

Poor Noob.

Story wise, he’s the most messed up character deserving development but he never gets it.

Has ties to most characters: His younger brother, Scorpion, Sareena, Cyrax, Sector, Raiden, Fujin, Quan Chi, by proxy to Frost.

Technically he’s an O7. But gets less development than Kano and arguably Reptile.

I'd be interested in a hack and slash game starring Kenshi and Takaeda.

Still want know why Noob couldn't be the guy to kill Hanzo?

Because... girl power? Hell if I know, Noob should have killed him, if he was going to die.

Probably because if Noob killed it wouldn't have really jelled with the whole "our past feuds are over" vibe old Hanzo was trying to instill into young Hanzo.

Young Hanzo's heel face turn is definitely something they were trying to rush as quick as possible, so doing little things like that to keep Fridge Logic down helped.

Also likely because they had already slotted Noob as jobber supreme by that point.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 17th 2020 at 3:17:26 AM

IDK Older Hanzo encouraging past Hanzo to act beyond revenge and himself in spite of being killed by his greatest enemy and the ultimate consequence of his revenge obsessed phase?

Then again MK 11 resolves Raiden and Liu Kang... byt just getting rid of the Raiden we've been following for two games.

I dunno, I'm with that it'd make the message more powerful and cement that Hanzo has indeed changed, that in his final moment, he's still talking his counterpart down from pursuing a vendetta against someone who has once again done him harm and seek a greater cause than mere revenge.

Doubly so if they two's confrontation in the Cyber Lin Kuei labs had actual dialogue worth a damn instead of platitudes where Noob talks about how big his power level is.

Like, imagine the two first meet at the factory, Noob carries a bit of a grudge over being murdered for a crime he didn't do. The two fight, Noob escapes. Then they have a second fight later at Charon's place, Noob Kills Hanzo, maybe Hanzo takes him out at the same time. And Hanzo gives the speech about needing to let go of revenge and the damage revenge does.

Which is funny considering the end of the game is another reboot, making Both Hanzos change of character pointless...

(That and Young!Scorpion does jack shit with that new perspective other than serve as the trigger of Raiden's realization that he might be going full asshole. Young!Scorpion's firmly demoted to extra after this)

But it replaces him with Raiden from 40% into the first of those two games. So we only lose like 1.60 games worth of raidens.

It's the most frustrating thing about MK 11 is that it has cool character beats (Kitana becoming Khan of Outworld, Scorpion, Cassie having to settle into a leader role prematurely)

But then the ending is designed so none of that will stick except for Liu Kang's character growth (Or Shang Tsung I guess).

Edited by Ghilz on Jun 17th 2020 at 6:58:20 AM

while raiden and kang fusing was a great moment, it was done in a way to sidestep the rivality between the two by erasing dark raiden and them reveant liu kang in a way.

Noob is annoying because he was great in MKD and become a fan favorite after that, I mean the most meanifull thing he said is aftermath by taking about his fight to fujin back in mythologies.

Unrelated to anything else, played a full set of Kompetitive matches today. Figured I'd try for some seasonal rewards. I'd only done online season play once, and a tiny bit more kasually, but I decided to go for it and actually did much better than I expected. Did the Daily Challenge (play 5 full sets) as Sindel, won 3/5.

I don't disagree that the message would've been more powerful that way.

What I'm saying is the problem is that they absolutely would've had to plot that (at the very least, a setup like that would've needed a final fight between Noob and young Scorpion), and they clearly needed Scorpion to turn good as fast as possible - especially if they really wanted Hanzo's death to be the last fight of that chapter for dramatic purposes (which they did, iirc).

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 17th 2020 at 8:47:50 AM

Congratz

That's mainly the reason why I wanted Noob to be the guy who kills Hanzo. I get that he's the bad guy, therefore, a jobber, but FFS this guy had his own game once upon a time. Granted, it was a god awful game.

In comparison to Bi-Han, Jax was allowed to beat his murder & the former MK champion.

I like mythologies, weird and awfull control aside, it was a great game.

But yeah Hanzo need a better confrontation with Noob, specially since dvorah just sort of disapear after that.

It's fine if you like it, but it was not a great game, no sir.

Bi-Han didn’t get his own game. Sub-Zero did. As Noob, he has never been that big a deal. It wasn’t even until Deception that they made him the original Sun-Zero, wasn’t it?

Either way, in the developers’ eyes, “Bi-Han” isn’t an important character. “Sub-Zero” is. It wasn’t just “decided” that Noob was jobber supreme for 11. That’s the role he’s always played.

In the games where everyone had two fighting styles, his second fighting style was literally a completely different character instead. That’s the guy we’re dealing with here.

The thing with Noob is, I don’t know what his motivations are.

Most of all the villains serve Shao Kahn or Shinnok. Or they want to Cyber the Lin Kuei like Sektor or Frost.

What does Noob want? Because whatever it is he’s been sucky at it.

Edited by ChumlyX1995 on Jun 18th 2020 at 7:36:28 AM

His ending suggests wanting a Shadow Lin Kuei. Some dialogue also suggests he does serve Shinnok and/or the Revenants.

Edited by sgamer82 on Jun 18th 2020 at 8:30:55 AM

Noob is power hungry and is biding is time.

And he wasnt always a jobber supreme, he was the sub boss in MKD and there noob was rising to posible villian material, it was in MK 11 when he wasnt only a jobber but a joke by making him a super edgelord.

Even with my reservation of Bi-Han being Noob, he still went beating Gods to being a jobber.

That's not gonna sit well with me as a Sub-Zero fan.

He needs better motivations.

Even Frost was leading Cyber Lin Kuei in MK 11.

Noob has just been a henchman. First to Quan Chi, then to Kronika.

Isn't he the Last of the Revenants?

Basically, an enslaved demon soul to Shinnok?

He is a wraith, hence the shadow powers

In theory he was supused to be reveant, it said so in MK 9 ending in fact, but them they move him to a wraith.

I mean is always weird why him lose is ice power to get shadow one when everyone else got the same powers.

Kung Lao traded his hat for an evil hat.