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Deadlock Clock: Nov 20th 2018 at 11:59:00 PM
Lord-Jaric Since: Feb, 2015
#1: Sep 12th 2018 at 8:47:48 PM

I feel that the description for Ignored Enemy is far too narrow for what the title implies. As the description only includes when two allies are arguing in the presence of an enemy. However, there are other cases where an enemy can be ignored.

Such as in DBZ when Cell reached his perfect form and began to look himself over despite Krillen and Trunks attacking him.

In a fanfic I'm reading one character opts to check on an another injured character and completely ignores the enemy that is trying to talk to them.

Both cases involve ignoring the enemy but under the description for the trope they wouldn't count as examples. Should the description be reworked to be more broader?

Edited by Lord-Jaric on Sep 12th 2018 at 10:47:40 AM

Lord-Jaric Since: Feb, 2015
#2: Sep 20th 2018 at 2:20:31 PM

Bumping this because it has been over a week with no response of agreement or disagreement.

Lord-Jaric Since: Feb, 2015
#3: Oct 9th 2018 at 8:50:11 AM

So, I guess I'm the only one that thinks this?

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4: Oct 9th 2018 at 8:54:51 AM

Do a wick check in order to find examples of misuse. I'm surprised this was opened without one, honestly.

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Lord-Jaric Since: Feb, 2015
#5: Oct 9th 2018 at 12:10:32 PM

Wick check? Sorry, don't know what that means.

bitemytail Since: Dec, 2011
#6: Oct 9th 2018 at 12:46:10 PM

[up] How to Do a Wick Check

This should explain what we mean.

Basically, go grab a large number of the examples and see how many are valid.

Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#7: Oct 9th 2018 at 1:59:26 PM

[up] But that has nothing to do with what they said.

They're not saying this trope is being misused, they're saying that the description could stand to be expanded.

bitemytail Since: Dec, 2011
#8: Oct 9th 2018 at 2:28:03 PM

[up] They could establish how many examples are not covered by the current description but would be covered if it were expanded.

eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#9: Oct 9th 2018 at 5:56:39 PM

^ And what if OP found that all examples fit the current trope description? The question is if a broader definition is in order to cover a wider range of examples going forward.

I think at the core the trope there is an enemy dumbfounded by the fact that their opponent is not paying attention to them for some reason. Not seeing why this reason should be limited to a single cause as done in current description.

Edited by eroock on Oct 9th 2018 at 3:14:38 PM

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#10: Oct 12th 2018 at 7:09:26 AM

OP's point is that the name's too broad for the description.

Expanding the definition is completely changing the trope. We'd only do that if there's misuse.

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#11: Oct 12th 2018 at 6:06:50 PM

^ Wouldn't this encourage misuse for being the only valid way to bring an expansion of the definition about?

Edited by eroock on Oct 13th 2018 at 12:06:46 PM

Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#12: Oct 12th 2018 at 10:27:36 PM

[up] I agree. That seems like a very backwards way to do things.

Lord-Jaric Since: Feb, 2015
#13: Oct 17th 2018 at 2:08:05 PM

So I feel either the definition needs to be changed to be more fitting for the name of the trope or the name needs to be more narrowed.

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#14: Nov 17th 2018 at 1:49:15 AM

Clock is set.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#15: Nov 21st 2018 at 10:41:18 PM

Clock is up with no progress, locking.

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