Avengers Endgame spoiler thread

Pepper shows up as Rescue?

[[fakespoilers:Oops, I dropped the Tesseract!]]

so this is the ending,I'm only shairing because this is the spoiler thread

I'm pretty sure, yes. There's a bluish-purple armor that's an almost dead ringer for Rescue's Armored Adventures design.◊

Edited by LordVatek on Apr 16th 2019 at 5:37:49 AM

I've got to say, this was a shocking twist.

Still not stronger than Shaq and The General.

I wonder how the death/defeat of Thanos will be handled.

Please none of those lame villain ends of Phase 1 and 2.

So I have a theory: Since the Avengers want to build a second gauntlet with other Infinity Stones, there's the problem of the Soul Stone, right? There's still the test if the Avengers wanted to get it.

What if Captain America is the one who willingly sacrifices himself for the stone, but gets revived because the true purpose of the test was to see if someone was brave/selfless enough. And that would be why Cap is suddenly worthy of wielding Mjölnir. However, I have no idea why there would be Mjölnir in his hands.

Okay so the highlights are, apparently:

• Thanos dies in the first fifteen or so minutes. Thor kills him. Followed by the destruction of the stones and a five year time skip.

• Thor Dark World ends up being relevant.

• Black Widow dies to get the Soul Stone. She willingly sacrificed herself.

• Past Thanos is the final enemy.

• Gamora comes back but it's a past version of her from before she joined the Guardians.

• Tony kills Thanos with the Infinity Stones but dies in the process.

• Steve goes back to the past to live with Peggy. As an old man he hands the shield to Sam.

• Vision does not come back.

• Thor joins the Guardians and crowns Valkyrie as queen of the like, 20 remaining Asgardians.

• The Guardians go off in search of Gamora.

• Past Loki is alive and has a Tesseract.

Those are just a few things because there is a lot that's still unclear. Namely, if five years have passed, what the heck is FFH?

Edited by LordVatek on Apr 23rd 2019 at 12:58:19 PM

mmmmm spoilers

Yep, I had a migraine just trying to wrap my head around the paradoxes and just where the hell Far From Home fits, unless they've been lying about it being placed after Endgame, because that means Peter, MJ and their entire high school class would have had to have been dusted for five years

So What about Bucky?! Does he go to the past as well? And man I wonder how Scarlet Witch takes things with Vision still being dead.

Perhaps this means that the series Wanda Vision is a reversal of roles from Tom King's Vision series, with Wanda trying to rebuild Vision and start a family with him

Bucky hangs around in the present.

Edited by LordVatek on Apr 23rd 2019 at 3:46:23 PM

I don't know some things aren't lining up for me here. Like apparently the time skip sticks despite Far From Home's entire existence?

That got me thinking about something else

If Peter and "MJ" get together in Far From Home, it's entirely possible "MJ" wasn't dusted and actually outgrows Peter by five years, while Peter remains a teenager, and is thus single again for the third film.

It's entirely possible this is a way of Sony/Marvel writing themselves out of a corner with the Michelle character and course correcting by having Peter then "move on" to the real Mary Jane in the third movie.

Edited by Zarius on Apr 23rd 2019 at 1:24:23 AM

From the sounds of it Im not a fan of Steve stays in the past because of the Implications.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Apr 23rd 2019 at 1:32:03 AM

I don't know about that exactly but I'm pretty sure this is how they're going to introduce Harry, Gwen, and Miles in future movies.

Yeah, the implications of Steve staying in the past are...pretty rough. Like, "letting your best friend be tortured and brainwashed by Nazis for 70 years because doing anything about it would fuck with the sanctity of the timeline" rough. Also Natasha dying sounds pretty bad—I'm not sure if there's more to it, but if there isn't, it's a little hard to be hype for the Black Widow movie if we already know she'll end up dying.

Well, hang on. If Steve stays in the past, couldn't he rescue Bucky there? I mean, him staying in the past already causes a big paradox, why stop there? Although, I guess that's better than just killing him off like I was afraid they would.

Exactly. Not to mention Tonys parents dying, Hydra infiltrating Shield, His best friend and others spending years tortured and brainwashed, etc. things that should be resolved.

Heck him advocating to improve things when he can instead of letting hate and prejudice continue as is, because thats the kind of man Steve Rogers is.

Which is why Im hoping this really isn'f the case.

Yeah, I'm gonna stick with 'assume that it's fake until proven otherwise'.

The other part of this is that paradoxes apparently aren't a thing by the time travel rules. Nebula kills her past self from the first Guardians movie and she's fine.

Yeah, the spoilers coming out seem like a deciedly mixed bag.

Not a fan of the fact that apparently Black Widow is killed and stays dead, with little commemoration in the movie.

Also, kind of two similar things apparently occur - Gamora is still dead but an evil past Gamora sticks around and a past version of Loki runs off with the Tesseract, despite the present Loki still being dead. Both of these kind of make sense for comics reasons - I assume it basically introduces the edgy, comics version of Gamora to the MCU and Loki in the comics never manages to stay a good guy for very long, but still seems like a waste of character development, even if there's further developments along the line.

I will say though in at least the case of Loki, it maybe isn't a huge loss, because what with the retcon or "retcon" that Loki was being mind-controlled by the staff, this version of him isn't really that much eviler than how he ended up, and he could have positive developments once he learns about what happened after that point in time.

Sucks for Gamora though.

Isn't there a Black Widow movie in the works?