Kemono Friends

Plagiarism scandal?

... Shit, you're not kidding or exaggerating. Currently at +4.1K to -33K; that's roughly a 1:9 ratio! And the comments... Heh, No Tatsuki, no tanoshi indeed.

Edited by MarqFJA on Sep 4th 2018 at 6:02:45 PM

Full context.

Yeesh, who's the idiot that had the hare-brained idea to just copy-paste the text like that? Did they seriously think that just because their part of a big company they can get away with bald-faced plagiarism of single individuals like that?

The No Tatsuki No Tanoshii is real. Even Know Your Meme is on the warpath about it.

I'm not downvoting, but I'm not contributing to the view count anyway.

New PV looks reasonably okay. New MC has avoided most of my concerns about the character and the graphics are an upgrade while still looking like the first season. Still getting downvote-bombed, but not anything like the previous occasions

Odds on Kyururu being part cerulean?

Almost 100%, I would say.

Though this seems like a sequel, especially if that's our Serval. And if it's not, then she had to learn "Don't eat me!" from our Serval.

No matter how tempting it is, I'm sticking to my principles and maintaining the #notatsukinotanoshii stance. Sorry, I'm not joining anyone who's watching S2 out of protest of the treatment of the old crew.

You know all these people still have jobs, right? Tatsuki's probably never going to work for Kadokawa again, but he seems to be doing fine (got an original series coming out soon), and the rest of the staff isn't being treated any worse than they would normally. Apparently a lot of them are still working on S2. The angry fans are probably having more of a negative effect on the old crew than anything Kadokawa did

Edited by Hylarn on Dec 17th 2018 at 10:48:50 AM

Angry otaku who were downloading the anime illegally anyway feel entitled to harass the staff of a studio who are making more show for them to enjoy. Yeah, that sounds about par for the course.

Sure, Tatsuki may have been the mastermind behind the original anime, but as was brought up in... I want to say the Winter 2019 anime thread, he's apparently ass at business. The Wikipedia section on the controversy also alleges improper conduct by both him and Yaoyorozu about some contract clause or another, so... I'm not sure it's as clear-cut.

Allegedly anyway. I wrote a reply in the winter thread about the matter and never got confirmation either way. I don't see a reason to trust Kadokawa's word over Yaoyorozu or vice versa, and given the industry is like Hollywood, I don't expect this to be clarified ever.

Yeah, we'll probably never know for sure. I won't blame anyone who doesn't want to watch the second season due to the whole thing leaving a sour taste in their mouth, but I just feel bad for the staff and crew who are 100% going to get harassed undeservedly for this, as if you can just choose not to do your job because you don't like how business decisions tens of levels above your head played out.

Edited by RedSavant on Dec 17th 2018 at 2:13:29 PM

I mean, I don't think Kadokawa would have dropped Tatsuki like that without reason. I'm not happy about it either, but I think the fan reaction is somewhere between over-the-top and horrifyingly over-the-top

Personally I would never engage in something as silly as internet justice, namely because it's more angry mob style harassment then meaningful protests. It's not like much damage is down to either companies, only the brand and staff was affected.

I see you say that and raise you FucKonami's treatment of Hideo Kojima (and apparently other people in their now closed down game development division) in and since 2015.

Kadokawa and Konami are two different companies, and Kojima and Tatsuki are two different people. 'A company fired a person' is not a basis for a meaningful comparison.

Merely firing Kojima would've been vastly preferable to FucKonami's Orwellian erasure of Kojima's name from all new copies of Metal Gear games, strongarming him into not attending the 2015 video game awards event and thus not accepting the award that he rightfully earned (which was wonderfully worked around by the award givers later in 2016), and a whole host of other unethical and even downright immoral things that have been already explained in detail over at the Metal Gear thread.

And it's not "a company fired a person" anyway, it's "a company fired a person without reason" (or, to use better wording, "without good reason"), which is true in the case of both Tatsuki and Kojima (unless you think Kadokawa's word is trustable... which is, in fact, not, for reasons already stated by another poster).

Edited by MarqFJA on Dec 23rd 2018 at 6:59:07 PM

I think my point stands that 'Konami fired Kojima, therefore Kadokawa's firing of Tatsuki is unethical' isn't a strong argument, nor is it a particularly relevant comparison. The only evidence of wrongdoing that's relevant to Kadokawa and Tatsuki is evidence pertaining to Kadokawa and Tatsuki, not to Konami and Kojima.

This is irrelevant to this thread, though

1. Kadokawa didn't actually fire Tatsuki, as he's an independent contractor. He was taken off of a project that hadn't really started yet
2. Completely disregarding the explanations given for no real reason isn't productive to anything except getting angry
3. The stated reason for this was Tatsuki acting without permission, failing to return calls, and generally being kinda flaky. His later actions have shown these claims to be entirely in-character for him

Edited by Hylarn on Dec 23rd 2018 at 8:13:23 AM

So the sequel series has started. Speculation:

• I think Kyururu started as a park visitor who was in one of those pods when it got hit by sandstar and turned into a cerulean. Then said cerulean died somehow and now Kyururu's probably part cerulean? Not sure on that last bit
• Probably a generation skip here. We'd previously seen that there's some level of continuity between incarnations of the same friend, which would explain Serval remembering the original series but not very well

Also I note that there's more food variety and more complex cerulean designs now, and I'm not sure if either means anything

Well, belated but I finished season 1 of this anime. I finished Kemurikusa as well so I figured, eh, why the hell not.

It was a really great show and I can see how there was so much hype during its run. I like how it had a great balance of cheerful road travel story and mysterious possibly post-apocalyptic setting.

I also love how the main duo had a very clear character arc and the questions raised in the story are mostly answered by the end of the season, the latter is something I loved with Kemurikusa as well.

It's a shame that Kadokawa decided to butcher this anime, because this could've been the next big franchise. Well, I won't be watching the second season at any rate.

Three stars out of four. Highly recommended.

I still need to watch the second season, honestly. I don't particularly care about the Tatsuki feud, so if the show is good, I don't see any reason to deprive myself.

Kemono Friends 2, Game of Thrones S8, Homestuck Epilogues.

Which is the most broken?

Kemono Friends 2 and especially the final episode seem designed to shit all over everyone who liked Kaban. At least what I've read from the plot points of Kemono Friends 2 because to me there is no Kemono Friends 2.

Yeah, it's a real shame.

Kaban gets sidelined, but nothing especially bad happens to her? She actually comes off fairly well throughout, I thought

If you want to get mad at how the returning characters are handled I'd point to Serval, personally