CHADhan Player.
At least the author knows what's happening is dumb af.
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So I guess the entire series is Hilarious in Hindsight now? They spend so much time on mindgames and semi-invisible hints that now obvious hints are invisible to them?
I find it funny in a meta sense that people came up with all kinds of theories about Mikado Shijo, the one who beat Shirogane in the national mock exam, and how he's going to be the inevitable arranged marriage partner of Kaguya.
Then the first thing we see him do onscreen is getting kicked down by Maki, of all people.
CHADhan Player.
Well, it fits the theme of this series. Smart people that are kind of pathetic.
I bet you Mikado actually IS a siscon and just let's Maki have her way.
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Episode 11
They skipped the best part of the ramen chapter 
I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane!
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Which was…? 
It was still hilarious. Like a mini-episode of Koizumi Loves Ramen, except funnier and with a more clueless lead. Reminds me that I want to taste real Japanese ramen at least once in my life. None of the Japanese restaurants I've tried here seem to get it right… or maybe I just don't like ramen that much, no matter how it's done… Also, the Fujiwara genes are strong indeed. Oof.
That bit with Kaguya constantly dragging Hayasaka out of her bath to ask about basic Internet stuff hit a bit too close to home. 
As for the end of the episode… damn it was sad. I loved that bit with Hayasaka reformulating what are probably Kaguya's deeper thoughts about her dad in a less polite way. Such a great friend. 
In the manga, on the way home Fujiwara met Prez and Ishigami. Ishigami then gave her mint breaths. Cue embarassed Chika.
It's also one of the first hints that establish Prez and Ishi as actual close friends, because it's Ishi who invited them to hang out.
Also yeah, that scene with Hayasaka really establishes how loyal she is to Kaguya. It's a shame she's not featured too much in the earlier parts of the series.
Edited by TrueShadow1 on Mar 24th 2019 at 8:51:26 AM
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The funny thing is that Kaguya's father still has not made an onscreen appearance
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I'm expecting an Ojojojo tier dad for laughs.
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CHADhan Player.
Well everything points to be him being a piece of shit. Which means he probably won't be and will be just as neurotic as his daughter.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Neurotic or no, the extreme negative impact he's had on Kaguya is clear. Though it's likely that he's just as much a victim of the family.
It's been fun.
CHADhan Player.
Well...given that Kaguya's ice persona isn't too dissimilar to her father's perceived attitude towards her, makes me think there's more going on with him than meets the eye.
On another note; something I noticed. Before they became the people they are today, Kaguya and Shirogane's temperaments were basically opposites. Kaguya being an ice queen and Shirogane being a bit of a hothead....sooo...are we going to see Shirogane revert to his old ways too>
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It better not be "he actually loves her, but can't show it because [reason]". That's such a corny and dumb cliche.
Agreed. 'All the mental abuse he heaped on her was just because he didn't know how to tell her he loved her' is an awful message to send, though it's one that could be in-character in Japan. Though given the way the series has talked about Kaguya's treatment at the hands of her family so far, I doubt it'll pull a 'but they really do love her' at the end. At best, I would expect a 'they do care for her, but that doesn't change the fact that their actions constitute actual abuse'.
It's been fun.
CHADhan Player.
That's basically this entire series in a nutshell though. What matters not if it's cliche or not, but how well written it is....and how funny it is.
Their treatment of her is actually way more Japanese than you think, given its a country that frowns upon too much freedom of expression. I doubt they'd go as far as say "They loved her all along", and more they're just as bad as Kaguya at expressing themselves.
The Shinomiya's being kind of messed up is a pretty consistent thing.
Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Mar 24th 2019 at 9:58:56 AM
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I know it's Japanese. That's kind of been the point of the chapters that deal with it. My question is whether the author is going to lean into it and end up with the message of 'this is how things are and it really means they love her', or whether the author will take the comparatively bold, for Japan, step of saying 'hey, maybe mentally abusing your child for the sake of elitism is a bad thing'.
It's been fun.
I highly doubt the author is going that way. I mean, the entire message of this series is "Just confess already, you dorks!". He even gave us an example of what happened if you don't express your feelings (Maki). Even if it's the case, the Shinomiya's house isn't suddenly getting okayed with how they treat Kaguya.
CHADhan Player.
Well, it's still a comedy series at the end of the day, so I don't think it will get too into the social commentary. That'd veer too much into drama territory and I think it would suck a bit of the fun out of the series. Even Shirogane's family situation is played for a bit of laughs despite their own issues.
Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Mar 24th 2019 at 10:35:37 AM
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It would just feel so anticlimactic. The Shinomiya family has been built up as the Big Bad of the series all this time.
I could see it explained as her father having been a prisoner of their family's policies just like she was, and him breaking free at the end to approve of her relationship.
But I'm honestly more interested in meeting her brothers.
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Calling them a "Big Bad" feels extremely wrong. Its not like they're diabolical villains trying to take over the world. Source of conflict sure, but that's about it.
The main sources of conflict in the series have always been the characters' own personal flaws and inability to communicate properly and I doubt that'd change with the Shinomiya's. And even then, that conflict is usually used for a punchline than serious drama.
So...I wouldn't expect some big badass arc of trying to overthrow the "evil Shinomiya" family. Shokugeki no Soma did that and it was fucking terrible and I really hope this series doesn't do it. PLEASE don't, I'd rather not lose faith in another series I care about.
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I feel like at most, Kaguya will end up disowned but happy with Miyuki. That sounds like the best-case scenario for both of them, honestly, aside from the inevitable problems it would pose for their Stanford plan.
It's been fun.
Big Bad is perhaps the wrong term here, but the family has been foreshadowed as a major source of conflict. Going the misunderstanding route would be dumb and disappointing.
Coincidentally, Azami's intro is the part where I dropped Souma. I'm glad I missed the trainwreck, if what I read on the internet is true.
Also, I keep seeing people call Mikado "El Hermano", which apparently is a meme about a Souma character?
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I don't think so. Our two leads' entire relationship is built off of misunderstandings, but the comedy aspect offsets how infuriating it could be.
And yea, it's pretty terrible. Inserting a new antagonist out of nowhere with no forewarning, rushing through every plot point, and shoving everyone but the main characters out of the spotlight. It's just straight up bad
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so we're basically stalling till Christmas for development I guess.
Ice is a bigger idiot than Baka.
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