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RainehDaze Figure of Hourai from Scotland (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
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#127001: Dec 5th 2021 at 12:28:51 AM

[up] Eh, if we're counting chapter releases.

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#127002: Dec 5th 2021 at 12:32:33 AM

That's a pet peeve of mine: something's only released when it's completely released.

Kind of like how only two-fifths of the Tsukihime Remake is out, but for some reason people keep referring to the Remake as "released".

RainehDaze Figure of Hourai from Scotland (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
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#127003: Dec 5th 2021 at 12:34:37 AM

I would count LB 5 as two separate chapters for considering plot/difficulty because they had different writers, casts, maps, and menu listings.

LB 6, by contrast, is just one enormous chapter in three parts.

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Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#127004: Dec 5th 2021 at 4:41:07 AM

@knowmenot: JP player here and Hades Klironimia just isn’t a thing at all.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#127005: Dec 5th 2021 at 4:52:23 AM

So thinking about it a bit, was all of the "There is impostor amogus" foreshadowing from Chaldean and Mysterious Archer T actually just about Corday since she was a Manchurian Agent for Odysseus?

... Yeah, probably not.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#127006: Dec 5th 2021 at 4:56:05 AM

As if Chaldean would bother remembering Corday. She doesn’t even take down a Chaos level threat.

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Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#127007: Dec 5th 2021 at 5:52:56 AM

Charlotte was out of the sub and he specifically mentioned that someone inside was not trustworthy, and it being Charlotte wouldn't make sense when he went of his way to kill our comms

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#127008: Dec 5th 2021 at 5:58:30 AM

Isn’t making the person who’s beneath suspicion the better narrative decision though?

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#127009: Dec 5th 2021 at 6:08:15 AM

Holmes, Holmes, Holmes and Holmes...

...with his world-ending levels of deduction and his obsessive compulsion to annihilate any mystery he can get his hands on.

If he ever manage to escape the Ruler-Class that the World forcefully shackled him with, he will be a threat to be removed ASAP.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#127010: Dec 5th 2021 at 6:31:11 AM

So since I sort of forgot to mention this before: Do Kirei and Muramasa (Shirou) sort of recall what happened between the two in FSN or...?

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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#127011: Dec 5th 2021 at 6:54:06 AM

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Probably just the basic rivalry between those two, recorded in the Throne of Heroes from their vessels (one getting dunked in a Greater Grail at the blessings of a certain Avenger and the other practically grafted into the Throne thanks to Archer and the counterforce...)

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#127013: Dec 5th 2021 at 7:04:19 AM

[up]x5 not necessarily? If you may crumbs for a character being shady, actually cashing in on them isn't a bad idea. Tricking your audience can be a smart narrative tool but it's not automatically a good one and there are lots examples of shows where the writers try to outsmart the audience and absolutely fail at it.

That being said, while Holmes being shady is obvious because they've been overselling it with no resolution for literal years, he actually hasn't really done anything to warrant suspicion from Chaldea. He's put himself in danger for our sake and generally stayed by our side helping for years. Him being the traitor would be an enjoyable twist if they had cashed in on it way earlier.

Edited by Mami on Dec 5th 2021 at 4:05:41 PM

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Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#127014: Dec 5th 2021 at 7:05:37 AM

it'll turn out Holmes ate Romani's sweet stash that he left in the freezer, the most unforgivable of crimes

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#127015: Dec 5th 2021 at 7:06:08 AM

Well damn, guess I have to kill him 😔🔪

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MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#127016: Dec 5th 2021 at 7:09:36 AM

Clearly the real traitor is Holme—I mean Red Herringtongue

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Dec 5th 2021 at 7:09:51 AM

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#127017: Dec 5th 2021 at 7:15:09 AM

Kirei and Muramasa do have vague memories of it, yeah. They both mention at some point that the people whose bodies they're inhabiting absolutely hate each other and have likely run into one another before in PHH.

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#127018: Dec 5th 2021 at 7:51:35 AM

I believe Muramasa when he says he has vague memories. I absolutely do not believe Kirie.

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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#127019: Dec 5th 2021 at 8:27:59 AM

AAARGGH!

The RETURN of the timed-turns is upon me again!

Update: ENOUGH! AOE-BUSTER BOMBS with Kaleidoscopes it is!

Update 2: This war with Odysseus is seriously stressing me out! (Well done there, game.)

Edited by TitanJump on Dec 5th 2021 at 6:01:11 PM

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#127020: Dec 5th 2021 at 9:25:41 AM

Yeah, those timing things are annoying me here, too. My strategy is to just bring Gilgamesh and have Enuma Elish get thrown out as fast as possible.

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#127021: Dec 5th 2021 at 9:34:32 AM

At this point, I am both stressed, furious, and unleashing whatever I have in B-AOE way on everything standing in front of me while running on pure rage as fuel.

With Merlin as shield for star-gather turns so I can hit everything in the next turn with 100%-Crit-Chain for certain.

Odysseus shall have props for infuriating me to this extent.

That is not easy.

Update 3: Annnd... out of AP while on Poseidon's back.

I got to say, this is an emotional roller-coaster.

And I honestly had forgotten Poseidon even still existed in this Lostbelt.

My emotions are running wild.

I need to cool down for a dozen of hours or so...

Edited by TitanJump on Dec 5th 2021 at 7:36:54 PM

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#127022: Dec 5th 2021 at 10:45:46 AM

Yeah, for all they hyped up Poseidon as being one of the "three great threats" needing to be overcome, he feels like an afterthought.

Hell, the heroes didn't even have a plan when they went up against him, unlike the meticulous plans they had to make against Odysseus and Artemis, so it feels like the heroes (and writers) also forgot Poseidon existed.

Though I did find it kind of amusing that the malfunctioning Poseidon just automatically assumes that any attacker must be Francis Drake and goes nuts trying to kill her.

Edited by DarkHunter on Dec 5th 2021 at 11:47:46 AM

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#127023: Dec 5th 2021 at 10:52:04 AM

Well he is way less dangerous than he would normally be because of Drake.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#127024: Dec 5th 2021 at 11:01:04 AM

I sort of recall that one of the obstacles on their own wouldn't be that much of a problem if they were just there. But when they are in place at the same time, it is nearly impossible to get to Olympus. Like Scylla and Charybdis, but you also add Harpies as a third nuisance. So when Odysseus' army and Artemis are out of the picture and you know where to travel, confronting a brain-damaged Poseidon isn't that much of a big deal.

Also it is Poseidon, he is made to job.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#127025: Dec 5th 2021 at 11:08:08 AM

The legendary God of the Sea....only exists to make other people look better.

Ooof

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

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