Miraculous Ladybug

Between Perfection and Intuition we've had 1 person per episode rejecting an Akuma, Monarch be losing his touch it seems.

It started getting easier and easier, didn't it? It stopped being impressive once Adrien's dad did it.

I mean, he's Hawk Moth himself, so it makes sense he'd be able to shrug off his own Akumas.

I was joking. It was supposed to be from outsider POV "well if that Gabriel can do it, anyone can" comment.

But coincidentally, more-less around that time cases of resisting Akuma became more common and less impressive.

Considering that Chloe of all people was the first character to ever reject an Akuma, maybe being a jerk isn't such a detriment when it comes to Heroic Willpower.

Let's see if (Leaks warning) people break out of Akumatization as often once Chrysalis takes over. According to the Bible she's supposed to be much more manipulative than Gabi ever was, so that should translate to a better hold to her akumatized victims.

Edited by True20 on Apr 29th 2023 at 1:32:20 AM

Has there been an antagonist for Adrien?

I feel like Gabriel is definitely more of an Adrien villain than a Marinette one.

Gabriel as Gabriel does seem to be an antagonist to Adrien, though an odd one compared to Marinette's.

I mean by season 5 even Gabriel becomes more Marinette's antagonist, while Adrien is reduced to the role of damsel in distress love interest.

Edited by True20 on Apr 30th 2023 at 8:08:30 AM

Yeah... on the one hand, Gabriel - as Gabriel - definitely is antagonistic to Adrien's life moreso than anyone else's.

On the other hand, from the beginnign Adrien's basically never actually engaged this antagonism at all. He's just kind of lived with it. Which makes it hard to really see Gabriel as an Adrien antagonist most of the time.

When someone does engage it, it's always someone else like Nino or Nathalie or Marinette, while Adrien is - as says - mostly the damsel to be fought over.

I wasn't thinking about it at the time the events of the end of Season 5 were mentioned, but now that I am thinking about it, it sounds to me like Marinette and Adrien actually helped an Akuma directly get revenge on Chloe despite previously refusing to let another directly get revenge on Bob Roth (I know they got their own revenge after, but still). Is that accurate, or did I misread?

Edited by badtothebaritone on Apr 30th 2023 at 8:14:02 AM

According to the leaks It's accurate. Collusion and Revolution are literally just Astruc's own Chloe saltfic brought to life. Actual Chloe saltfics probably won't be able to top these 2 episodes unless they have Chloe be brutally murdered or something along those lines.

Migration really be trying to gaslight us that Adrien and Luka have a close friendship lol.

So if Lila will be the Big Bad for the foreseeable future, do you think they'll actually lose once in a while or will it be All According to Plan?

Edited by lalalei2001 on May 7th 2023 at 9:24:15 AM

Probably the former, but they'll still claim the latter regardless.

Lila: all according to Keikaku.

"I mean by season 5 even Gabriel becomes more Marinette's antagonist, while Adrien is reduced to the role of damsel in distress love interest. "

To put it better, gabriel is andrian antagonist but hawkmoth is ladybug, thing is gabriel as chararter hardily appears

I do like we're getting more time to see Gabriel and Marinette interact.

It almost feels unfair that Luka has to leave Paris. It's not his fault the writers couldn't think of anything to do with a Secret Secret-Keeper.

Marinette already has Alya, he's not that close to Adrien (despite Migration trying to tell us otherwise) and they're still stalling for the reveal.

So off with his game changing knowledge Luka goes.

I can't believe Chloe, Sabrina, and Kim almost killed Marinette for a prank. That's some next level evil right there.

Edited by Mullon on May 13th 2023 at 12:20:34 PM

I feel like Adrien and Chloe end their friendship every season.

Another relationship I feel I'm getting gaslighted about is the one between Marinette and Socqueline. Jubilation literally treated her like she was just an old friend of Marinette on the level of Rose or Mylene, but then comes Derision portraying her as Marinette's almighty saviour against Chloe. Girl is straight up Alya on steroids lmao.

So apparently Confrontation and Colluion both debut on the 27th on RTS. Thats a french channel right?

Swiss, but french-speaking, yes.