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Well, in this case he is, just through no fault of his own. He got mind-jacked into it, setting up a conflict where Cap is loyal to Hydra, but to a vision of Hydra that only exists in his mind and is fundamentally irreconcilable with any version of Hydra that has ever existed.
The story is exploring the fundamental identity of who Captain America is through the lens that even if you make him into a Hydra Agent, what you get is Captain America as a Hydra agent.
Captain HYDRA should be talked about in the Marvel Comic thread.
Interestingly, the voice actors for Jean and Xavier in the 90s animated series are married. lol
So Singer revealed the Legion is connected to the X-men films. I'm guessing original timeline?
Because it was stated that it was in a parallel universe where mutants were still not known to the general public yet.
edited 27th Aug '16 4:27:32 AM by ManOfSin
So I was reading X-Factor's Fall of The Mutants story line and noticed the parallels with the film.
Plague(Pestilence) was one of the morlocks, so naturally she is poor living with other people in poverty. She is rescued by Apocalypse during the mutant massacre and is soon made a horsemen. Mirrored by Storm being saved by Apocalypse from those guys trying to kill her and soon becomes a horsemen, she is also shown to be poor and living with others in poverty.
Abraham Kieros(War) was an ex-solider that was injured in combat(all explained in a single page) and Apocalypse restores him. Mirrored by Angel getting his wings injured in combat and Apocalypse restores him.
Warren(Death) is one of the original X-men whom readers were very familiar with. He loses his wings and goes into a deep depression. Apocalypse recruits him, telling Warren to focus on his anger as he turns him into a horsemen. In the end Warren turns on Apocalypse because of his friendship with the X-men. Mirrored by Magneto who was a member of the proto X-men that viewers are very familiar with. He loses his wife and daughter(also happened in the comics) and goes into a deep depression. Apocalypse taps into his anger as his increases his power and makes him a horsemen. But just like Warren, he turns on Apocalypse because of his past friendship with the proto X-men team.
edited 1st Sep '16 5:57:54 PM by ManOfSin
Wolverine 3 Set Up a Villain, Mister Sinister, in X-Men: Apocalypse
Wonder if this means we will get an introduction to the Morlocks and a recreation of the infamous Mutant Massacre storyline; the real challenge will be writing out the parts involving Thor and the Power Pack.
The release Logan is REALLY going to make composing a viewing order for these films hard.
Currently I tend to say First Class -> X-Men -> X2 -> (Origins as a flash back if you really want to) -> The last stand -> The Wolverine -> Days of Future's Past -> Apocalypse -> Deadpool
Basically so you can watch the entire original timeline before hopping into the new one. I guess if Logan turns out to be in the post days of future's past timeline then he can persistently sit last in the viewing order. Meanwhile the period films and deadpool sequels pile up behind it.
edited 20th Oct '16 12:43:55 PM by Whowho
Tim Miller exits Deadpool 2
Analysis on Scott and Jean's treatment in the films that I made. 
edited 3rd Nov '16 8:44:45 AM by ManOfSin
In response to the underperformance of Apocalypse, the X-Men movie series will be reconfigured.
This can either end up being very good or very bad.
Honestly, they should just reboot...they can keep Deadpool (because his movie was barely connected to the X-men anyway), but otherwise it would be better to make a fresh start.
They should just make the movies they want to make and not worry so much about continuity. They can recast all the characters, change the costumes, the tone and look of everything, pick a different house for Xavier's school, none of that matters. But they don't need to keep retelling the origin stories of the characters every time it happens. We're familiar, at this point.
The continuity's kind of shot to hell already, anyway.
Complete reboot is the way to go after Logan (since Deadpool isn't really canon with the rest of the films), since this film series continuity is broken beyond repair.
Yeah, they should have made a clear cut with First Class but since they didn't, they have to do it now. And since they are apparently unable to create a proper continuity, they could do a bunch of X-men movies which are not necessarily set in the mansion but deal with the experience of superpowered people in a world which hates them.
I don't mind if they want to make a movie which completely disregards the continuity they've established so far. I just don't want them to go back and retell the origin stories of these characters, because we've seen it. Just start us off in medias res, and yes, show us some other characters coming to grips with being mutants, play up the social metaphor of people out in the world being hated— some of whom don't even have powers, and can't rely on Xavier's school to spirit them off to New York.
edited 11th Nov '16 12:03:23 PM by Unsung
I'd rather they didn't reboot, simply because I've become so invested in this setting.
Having the next movie focus on the kids would be an adequate soft reboot alone, surely?
They sort of already started us off in media res with the original X-Men. I mean, yeah, we saw the start of Rogue, but the rest of the movie was just like, "Here's Wolverine, he's a badass, and those are the X-Men. They're a thing. They're fighting Magneto and his Brotherhood of Mutants. What are those? F*ck you, that's what. Pay attention, there's fight scenes happening."
Most of the concepts in the original X-Men film were firmly established before the film began, with Rogue serving as a POV to introduce the audience to them.
edited 11th Nov '16 1:47:14 PM by TobiasDrake
...Sorry, off-topic, but is that a Captain America dragon as your new avatar?
But other than that, yeah. The whole advantage of mutants as the origin of your superhero is you don't need to know a lot more than that. They were born with it, people hate and fear them because of it, aaaand go.
It's American Kaiju flipped upside-down. This◊ is the full image.
I needed a flag to hang upside-down that was also a dragon.
edited 11th Nov '16 3:25:26 PM by TobiasDrake
Awesome. That's the way to do it.
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