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#101: Oct 15th 2021 at 4:02:39 AM

I wonder what would’ve happened if they went into their One Piece dub with the same standards as TMNT 2003 i.e. pushing the limits for what was appropriate.

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#102: Oct 15th 2021 at 4:07:06 AM

I think they did want to do a faithful dub at first but someone veto'd it. After all they did dub We Are.

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Cortez Since: May, 2009
#103: Oct 15th 2021 at 4:35:41 PM

TMNT 2k3 also gave us Bishop who was a cool villain.

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Ultimately One Piece was a bad fit for them since even if they were more lenient they probably would have still needed to edit some scenes.

One Piece only started airing unedited when it was on Adult Swim's version of Toonami.

Edited by Cortez on Oct 15th 2021 at 7:43:07 AM

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#104: Oct 15th 2021 at 9:18:18 PM

Only by people that never watched the 2003 cartoon, since the show never actually did that.
Go back and watch it, they do. Lest we remember Phelous' review of Turtles Forever.

Cortez Since: May, 2009
#105: Oct 15th 2021 at 9:24:09 PM

I did and they didn't. The show never took shots at the 80s show. In fact, the show had mythology gags to the 80s show.

I actually watched the show, not just a youtube video about a crossover film.

Incidentally, the film ends with everyone on good terms and like i said, if they showed favoritism towards anyone, it was towards the Mirage Turtles, the original versions. Even then the Mirage Turtles admit that they dug the belt buckles with the initials that the 80s toons Turtles have.

Edited by Cortez on Oct 16th 2021 at 10:25:03 AM

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#106: Oct 16th 2021 at 2:06:49 PM

The show was fine, it's the crossover that's the issue. Turtles Forever exaggerated what the '87 show was like for comedy, which is why we had weird stuff like mutant bananas.

But in general, people aren't as fond as they used to be at the whole "oh, this old nostalgic property was cheesy" thing as they used to be. People still complain about the yellow spandex line from the first x-men movie to this day.

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#107: Oct 16th 2021 at 2:42:48 PM

And even then you had Bebop and Rocksteady essentially save the day, which i remember people being surprised by that since Peter Laird(Co-Creator of the TMNT) was allegedly not particularly fond of them.

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#108: Oct 16th 2021 at 5:29:00 PM

I think they did want to do a faithful dub at first but someone veto'd it. After all they did dub We Are.
From what I heard, I think they were aware it was kind of impossible to dub but were kind of pushed into it.

Could be wrong, but didn’t Shaman King also get them in hot water because they were more lenient on it compared to other dubs? I know it almost got an uncut dub, too.

Edited by Oshawott337 on Oct 16th 2021 at 6:29:34 AM

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#109: Oct 16th 2021 at 5:51:22 PM

It was because they didn't Censor Hao Asakura beating the Shit out of Yoh on screen that got them in hot water, as well as not censoring the Christain imagery of the X-laws.

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#110: Oct 16th 2021 at 6:14:41 PM

If that's what people were upset about, clearly they missed the part about Jesus being a previous Shaman King. When you have such a blasphemous premise, the rest is inevitable. I'm surprised 4Kids dubbed it in the first place.

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#111: Oct 16th 2021 at 6:57:56 PM

I also remember they were lenient with the Ultimate Muscle dub.

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#112: Jan 28th 2022 at 10:07:42 AM

J's Reviews has been doing a retrospective of the TMNT 2k3 series. People have been discussing the videos over at the TMNT thread in the western animation section.

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#113: Feb 10th 2022 at 10:34:54 AM

Barring the utterly awful Mirabelle Haywood aka Seeno Aiko the Doremi dub was awesome. And it premiered the same day as the Naruto dub did.

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#114: Jul 3rd 2022 at 8:53:00 PM

As today is the 4th of July, now would be a good opportunity to bring up that time the cast of 4kids sang the American national anthem.

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#115: Jan 28th 2023 at 11:35:30 AM

Youtube host Saberspark looks at the rise and fall of 4kids, as well as pointing out how important it was in anime becoming more mainstream in the west.

Cortez Since: May, 2009
#116: Oct 18th 2023 at 7:06:07 PM

There's a new podcast called 4kids Flashback hosted by Tara Sands and Steve Yurko.

The first episode is an interview with Michael Haigney, among they things they talk about is how the infamous Jelly Doughnut came about.

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#117: Jan 3rd 2024 at 8:03:53 AM

The latest episode of the podcast has an interview with Eric Stuart, the voice of Brock and Kaiba.

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#118: Feb 22nd 2024 at 6:01:06 PM

What's interesting is how the One Piece 4Kids dub has no fandom at all. Lots of people love Joey Wheeler's dumb accent and Yugi characters being sent to the Shadow Realm, but zero people are nostalgic for Sanji's lollipop or Usopp's rubber knife.

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#119: Feb 22nd 2024 at 6:36:33 PM

People do have some nostalgia for some of the voice actors. Not the writing, though.

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#120: Feb 23rd 2024 at 2:11:13 AM

There are people that have fond memories of everything else 4kids did, from Ultimate Muscle to even Funky Cops, but their One Piece dub seems to be the exception.

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#121: Feb 23rd 2024 at 2:26:00 AM

Everyone has their stinkers.

I only heard about the One Piece 4 Kids dub by reputation. Like apparently the rap is infamous.

Which is a weird one because 4Kids usually delivers on the music quality for openings.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 23rd 2024 at 8:16:18 PM

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#122: Feb 23rd 2024 at 2:31:19 AM

I do think it's probably not helped by the performances being not as iconic to people like Dan green as Yugi and eric Stuart as Kaiba.

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#123: Feb 23rd 2024 at 2:33:24 AM

Yeah, we'll at least remember 4Kids more for making Anime more mainstream and introducing it to kids, than the One Piece rap.

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#125: Feb 23rd 2024 at 6:14:53 AM

Why?

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