My Hero Academia

The question is what Dabi plans on doing.

Also if High End really is permanently out.

I could see Endeavor dying (though I wouldn't like it right now) if Hawks weren't here, but since Hawks is here, I don't see why Dabi kills Endeavor but lets Hawks live. And killing Hawks here would be very off to me, so I'm going to say no one is dying.

Honestly, I don't think Shigaraki would want to waste a bullet on a situation like this. Not unless they've already found a way to reproduce them, that is.

I would hardly call the number 1 hero a waste.

I'm interested in the long term effects of what will happen next chapter. Based on how things are going, I'm thinking that at some point (not necessarily now), public faith in heroes will start to deteriorate.

To some extent faith in heroes is already deteriorating, that's why those kindergarden brats that showed up for the remedial licencing lessons were acting out. Though for now it's more general unease...

Wouldn't be surprised for it to get worse before it gets better, but whether Dabi's meeting with Endeavor has anything to do with it will be interesting to see.

"Waste" might not be the best phrasing, but it's already been made clear that the position of No. 1 has been devalued since All Might not longer holds it. Endeavor just doesn't inspire the same kind of confidence, so it doesn't send the same kind of message.

Ironically, the whole situation seems to be rectifying that situation, but going off Dabi's words, it seems likely that he just assumed that High-End would kill him and continue to cause damage.

But it is true they have four bullets, and at least some of them have to be used. I'm just not sure if they'd do so quickly.

Yea, it does look like Dabi assumed Endeavor wouldn't be able to beat High End.

So do you think All For One ever told Shigaraki (or at least Kurogiri) about One For All? At the beginning it didn't seem like he knew the exact details, just that All Might was supposed to be getting weaker.

If he does know, I imagine that Izuku would be a prime target for one of those bullets. Forget just killing him, that would be the end of One For All altogether (or at least, that would be the assumption).

And related to Izuku and his usage of One For All, in coming up with his own moves for his Shoot Style, he seems to still be doing homages to All Might's moves. Manchester Smash (to All Might's New Hampshire Smash), St. Louis Smash (to All Might's Missouri Smash). All Might also has Carolina, Texas, and Oklahoma smashes so I suppose we should look out for new attacks named after cities in those states.

Delaware Smash was always his own thing and now he's refining it, and he just straight up copied All Might's Detroit Smash.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 16th 2018 at 7:04:47 AM

Well Detroit Smash is the first move we see All Might perform, and its the first one Deku emulates so it's got some significance.

Well the first move we see All Might performing is actually Texas Smash, and Deku has never done that one. I have been wondering what the difference between Detroit and Texas was, and just decided to settle on that maybe Detroit Smash is a hook and Texas Smash is a straight.

The anime OST has a theme for Overhaul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMRsxiiCw08

Also, just realized. Detroit Smash is the only move All Might uses that's based on a city and not a state.

Well, there's usually some sort of connection to the name and the motion he's making/the effect created. Maybe he went with "Detroit" because the connection to desolation is so obvious, and that's why it got to be the exception.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 16th 2018 at 9:49:33 AM

Either that or he has other city-named moves that he just hasn't used. I'd be surprised if he didn't have a "New York Smash" or "Los Angeles Smash" or something.

Kansas City Smash!

San Francisco Smash!

Baton Rouge Smash!

Chicago Smash!

The possibilities are endless

Huh, I never noticed that.

Which was the one that’s an uppercut

"Waste" might not be the best phrasing, but it's already been made clear that the position of No. 1 has been devalued since All Might not longer holds it. Endeavor just doesn't inspire the same kind of confidence, so it doesn't send the same kind of message.

It sends the message that #1 is a joke now and that no one will ever be able to replace All Might. Honestly I'm finding it difficult to imagine even a theoretical situation which would be a better use of it. Normally if you're in a position of power over someone you don't like, it'd be cheaper and more practical to just kill them (heck, just fill the vial with poison instead). The only reason to use the quirk removers is to humiliate someone, and there's no better target than Endeavor. Nor will there ever be.

Edited by Clarste on Jul 16th 2018 at 10:33:34 AM

Well, killing Endeavor (or whoever else High-End ended up fighting) did seem to be the intended outcome.

"People don't have faith in the No. 1 Hero" and "No one will ever be as good as All Might" are things most people already believe, it's not a message that needed to be sent. What did you think all the unease about Endeavor becoming No. 1 was about.

In fact, the very section quoted explains all of this, so I'm not actually sure what you're not getting.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 16th 2018 at 12:42:13 PM

High End stopped fighting the moment he thought he won and left to find new targets. He was looking to best strong opponents and killing them was not his main objective. Even if he obvious left them in states needing medical attention.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 16th 2018 at 10:41:55 AM

Regardless, I'm still not following how humiliating Endeavor sends a bigger message than just killing him. Because, again, people already didn't have the same kind of faith him (or anyone else) as they did All Might, everyone already assumed that there would never be another All Might. If Dabi is going to try and humiliate Endeavor, it's almost certainly for personal reasons.

Ironically, the situation has done more for Endeavor's reputation and public upliftment than anything else since All Might's retirement.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 16th 2018 at 12:52:42 PM

When people are already having doubts about the #1 hero is exactly the time to drop the hammer and shatter any last semblance of public confidence once and for all. It is exactly the wrong time to go "welp, our job here is done, time to go home."

Especially since Endeavor just earned a "victory" that seems to be well-received by the media.

Edit: Ever heard of a Hope Spot? We literally have a trope about how to best crush people's hope.

Edited by Clarste on Jul 16th 2018 at 10:54:46 AM

Yeah...killing him still works better for that. I could go with what you were saying if it were All Might because it's All Might. And Endeavor is no All Might.

That Endeavor won seems to be entirely unexpected. It seems like you're talking as if the plan would always to be come in and De-Quirk him which...give how things were going for the most part, I can't actually imagine.

At most it's a plausible contingency plan.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 16th 2018 at 12:56:07 PM

If he's still around in a pathetic state it just shows how much control the villains have over the situation. They can afford to let him live, and everyone knows it.

True, it's not a huge difference from just killing him, but when will it be? What possible situation would be a better time to use these? As I said earlier, I literally cannot imagine one. Can you?

Edited by Clarste on Jul 16th 2018 at 10:58:44 AM

On Izuku, like I brought up, assuming they know about One For All.

I'm not saying using it on Endeavor is a terrible idea, I'm just going "It's totally the best time ever" because Endeavor just doesn't have the kind of clout for that.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 16th 2018 at 1:00:10 PM