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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#41151: Apr 6th 2020 at 5:59:56 PM

Main instance of Japan performing the Death Penalty I can think of offhand was last year, or year before last, I forget which, executing the leader of the Aum Shinrikyo death cult, Shoko Asahara. They were the perpetrators of the sarin gas train attacks in Tokyo in the late 90s.

I think All For One could probably qualify as a cult leader, given the fanatical following he's been shown to have. And he plays himself up like a supervillain not unlike what these guys did, and has committed at least as many heinous crimes as any of the cult's higher ups did.

So yeah, AFO would probably be death penalty bound if he were properly tried.

Edited by sgamer82 on Apr 6th 2020 at 7:03:07 AM

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#41152: Apr 6th 2020 at 7:41:07 PM

The fact that most of the villains are obviously insane might at least keep them safe from the death penalty, but I don't know Japan's status on the Insanity Defense. Pretty sure Himiko and Twice would count under the American legal definition of insanity, but AFO definitely wouldn't.

Edited by Discar on Apr 6th 2020 at 7:41:38 AM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#41153: Apr 6th 2020 at 7:42:55 PM

This year a guy who killed a huge number of mentally handicaped people with "putting them out of their misery" as his driving force was sentenced to death as well.

Not a fan of the death penalty being applied to civilians, or outside of wartime for the matter (and not a fan of wartime either).

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41154: Apr 6th 2020 at 7:47:26 PM

Toga seems like the only one I think insanity might work for. She genuinely sees what she does as an act of love, whereas the others' various psychosis really shouldn't impair their ability to go "killing is wrong" at all.

IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#41155: Apr 6th 2020 at 7:49:40 PM

Insanity isn't a thing in the Japanese justice system. It's the nine factors I quoted, although it's very possible for a good lawyer to fold insanity into the "motive" factor.

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#41156: Apr 6th 2020 at 8:04:14 PM

Even if they are not all there, I think they are too in control for the insanity defense to work. They are getting fried if the heroes don't kill them.

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#41157: Apr 6th 2020 at 8:08:56 PM

[up][up][up]Twice could probably be justified by using his constant contradictory behavior as indication he is incapable of deciding anything for himself and was instead being "manipulated" and "exploited" by the League. Or at least, it could have worked before he started to move past that after the MLA arc.

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#41158: Apr 6th 2020 at 8:12:24 PM

I think from an outside perspective, Toga is the only one with a real claim to an altered mental state. Spinner and Compress are completely sane, Shigaraki and Twice got dealt a particularly shitty hand in life and became highly antisocial as a result, Dabi is a chronic asshole. Toga is a high-school girl who actually seemed to have a mental breakdown with regards to her Quirk, judging by her backstory.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41159: Apr 7th 2020 at 12:20:57 AM

The High-Ends adjust fast it seems. Mirko couldn't have been fighting them for too long, but they're already something she can't hit, and are speaking more normally (that's more apparent in the raw than translated, though).

WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#41160: Apr 7th 2020 at 12:26:25 AM

Well to be fair she was fighting 3 vs 1. I figure maybe she would be able to hit them if it was just one of them.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#41161: Apr 7th 2020 at 12:26:32 AM

There are shots of their eyes like fully open & clear signifying that they really are awake.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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#41162: Apr 7th 2020 at 7:55:50 AM

Endeavor fought one High-End with some help from Hawks and barely managed to defeat it with heavy injuries, with his power able to blast a large area.

Mirko relies on physical contact, and it’s a 3v1 while the Nomu have plenty of room to dodge.

High-Ends’ stats are just that good, though I imagine they won’t do so hot with Endeavor’s blasts. Pun intended.

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#41163: Apr 7th 2020 at 8:53:56 AM

[up]Plus, that High-End was on a test drive. It wasn't refined yet and the whole reason Garaki gave it to Dabi was to give it a trial run. These ones however? Likely more refined and therefore likely more dangerous.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41164: Apr 7th 2020 at 2:40:19 PM

[up]That might have been the case if Dabi had managed to recover Hood's corpse, but he didn't, and so the Doctor couldn't apply what he learned to the others. The Doctor himself has said that, so these being better than Hood is very unlikely.

You know, things seem like they're coming to a head, but we still haven't seen our main characters or most of the Top 10 Heroes do anything. I wonder why that is.

Out of curiosity, what is the reception to Dabi's speech this chapter? Is there a lot of rationalization about how he didn't really mean what he said about not caring about anyone in the League and how Hawks is still the Devil and yadayada?

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#41165: Apr 7th 2020 at 2:46:14 PM

I mean, if nothing else, it's the most fleshed out Dabi's character has been. Most of his personality we kind of had to guess based on who we think he's related to, but necessarily for who he actually was.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#41166: Apr 7th 2020 at 2:58:00 PM

[up][up]I mean, we're only ten chapters into the arc. This is probably gonna be more of a 'the real battle begins now' than anything else.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#41167: Apr 7th 2020 at 3:07:31 PM

I wonder if this is gonna surpass the Overhaul arc in length

[up] This arc has technically started since Aizawa and Mic went to go see Kurogiri.

So far, it's been 14 chapters.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Apr 7th 2020 at 6:21:18 AM

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sdsaa Since: Jan, 2019
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41169: Apr 7th 2020 at 7:11:56 PM

I'm curious what happens with Hawks now, because he's basically useless after this. I think what's supposed to be happening is that he's using his feathers to protect his body from the flames, which still doesn't really make sense, but whatever. But those have to all be completely destroyed by this point.

But this arc still has a long way to go, so what purpose will he have for still being here?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#41170: Apr 7th 2020 at 7:14:55 PM

I'm wondering if Tokoyami is actually gonna fight Dabi or just try to make an immediate escape.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#41171: Apr 7th 2020 at 7:15:02 PM

[up][up]He might not be useful for the rest of this arc, but his feathers grow back. If, in the future, he's the one hero who knows about Todoroki Touya and needs to decide what to do with that information, then there's no way that he isn't one of the most important pros going forward after this.

Edited by IniuriaTalis on Apr 7th 2020 at 10:15:29 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#41172: Apr 7th 2020 at 7:18:46 PM

Pretty sure Hawks is done for this arc; he accomplished his mission (killing Twice) and learned invaluable information (Dabi's identity). Given his current state, the safest thing for him to do is to get the fuck out of dodge so he can recover.

Which makes me wonder where the focus is going to next aside from where Mirko, Endeavor, and Garaki are. The focus might just remain on the hospital though given Hawk's role in this arc is over, and hospital is where all of the major characters are at.

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#41173: Apr 7th 2020 at 7:24:50 PM

Nah, no way they show all our 1-A kids waiting in the wings if they're not going to do anything. Stuff will definitely go pear-shaped, and make the heroes draw on every last reserve they have.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41174: Apr 7th 2020 at 7:34:27 PM

Yeah, leaving the hospital mansion side entirely means that no one else gets to do anything. I don't see that happening.

Whatever happens, I feel like this chapter basically confirms that Hawks, Endeavor, and Mirko won't be dying here. Hawks and Endeavor because they both have to be alive to actually talk about what Dabi said, and Mirko just because I don't think this is how a character like her goes out. That and, as we're already aware, Horikoshi loves her so I don't see him killing her off after one fight.

But as for anyone else, that remains to be seen.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#41175: Apr 7th 2020 at 7:36:31 PM

Itnis time for Hawks to fall. He's gotten too closento the sun, and so he was burned.

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