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devak They call me.... Prophet Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
Dec 9th 2019 at 1:57:25 AM

They seemed interesting in terms of power and i liked the silly power rangers thing, but them going above and beyond to be dicks, made me feel nothing. Actually, I'm sad they didn't die. The world would've been measurably better without them

slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Dec 9th 2019 at 2:07:10 AM

The sad thing is the whole Power Rangers theme was wasted on them. Like aside from the transformation sequence they never do any sentai moves. For God's sake they never did any coordinated poses.

How do you do a Power Rangers homage & not have them pose? That's like day one shit basic shit. Hell the Pussycats are more Power Rangers than them cause they actually pose.

And then you get to the actual underwhelming suit powers & ya start thinking "Why would anyone ever defend these people?"

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 9th 2019 at 2:08:35 AM

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devak They call me.... Prophet Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
Dec 9th 2019 at 3:04:04 AM

True. I never really got the point of Germa. They seemed like obvious hate sinks and these Nazi aholes (it's not even subtle they're just Nazis) get their comeuppance and then sanji.. pities them? Like why? Everything pointed to cosmic retribution, these power-obsessed supremacists being powerless, these Ubermensch suddenly outsmarted and outplayed, and their punishment is nothing. Well, minor shame.

By comparison, the league is made of broken people. They do bad things, but don't go out of their way to do it in the worst way possible. The only person shigaraki explicitly makes suffer is Overhaul.

M84 Light our darkest hour! from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Light our darkest hour!
Dec 9th 2019 at 3:07:27 AM

When it comes to the weird standards people have concerning the LOV vs abusive parents like Enji and Kotaro, I just chalk it up to most people having more trouble seeing the LOV’s crimes as “real”. Whereas an abusive parent is more “real” to them. Most of us do not have firsthand experience with mass murderers after all.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Dec 9th 2019 at 3:08:19 AM

I think the scene where the Germa boys have been trapped by Big Mom and think they're about to die and they just stand there laughing it off and/or admiring Big Mom's scheme played a big role in changing the fandom's opinion on them. While I don't think it makes them sympathetic, it sort of estabilish them as partly victims.

That said, it's still extremely cartoonish and emotionally low-impact, when compared with the job Horikoshi has done and is doing with most of the League of Villains, at least in my opinion.

slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Dec 9th 2019 at 3:11:50 AM

Though the Germa are also horribly abusive to Sanji even in adult-hood so obviously people have differing standards on how they treat abusers.

I guess Endeavor & Kotaro are just not "pretty" enough. tongue

[up] I agree with ya homes, it didn't work for me either. Hell I was rooting for the Big Mom Pirates to kick their ass. There was immense gratification in watching Katakuri treat the red one like the punk child that he is.

Shame they turned out to be allies in the end.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 9th 2019 at 3:14:52 AM

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
Dec 9th 2019 at 3:18:38 AM

on germa I have to argue that they have more of a kamen rider motif not a power rangers theme ( they are both tokusatsu series involving transformations but germa66 has obvious connections to shocker Shocker was a terrorist organization that planned on ruling the world (in the original manga is shown that Shocker had some influences over the governments of the world), with virtually all of its members modified in some way. The founders had mostly Nazi ties so it fits that germa66 not only references the nazis but the shocker organization from kamen rider

Shocker’s scientists performed surgical alterations that gave the subject superhuman fighting abilities. Even the most basic Shocker soldier was tougher, stronger and faster than the average human civilian. The most powerful of their forces were the Kaijin, modified humans who were combined with animal DNA and human cybernetics to create living weapons.

In an attempt to create the ultimate warriors, they were responsible for the rise of the very first Kamen Riders 1 and 2, whom defected and became the heroes who would ultimately lead to the fall of Shocker.

and sanji and his siblings were altered genetically

and the kamen riders specialty is the kamen rider KICK

In it Kamen Rider Black RX is a cyborg whose motif is a black grasshopper, which mirrors Sanji’s own epithet as Black Leg. Grasshoppers are known for their incredible spring like leg muscles that allow them to jump incredible heights which allow them to launch themselves in the air to fly. However he also has another motif and that is based on the sun. Kamen Rider Black RX is a photosynthetic warrior who is powered by the sun.

Since Kamen Rider is powered by the sun, he can set his legs and fists on fire to increase the lethality of his kicks and punches, which is basically what Sanji’s Diable Jambe does both sanjis experience as a child and duval was a reference to the man in the iron mask .

Though based on a real prisoner in the late 1600’s who Louis XIV forced to always wear a velvet mask to hide his identity and who was made to serve other prisoners, one of the most popular versions of the story is that of Alexandre Dumas, translated into a film in 1998. The prisoner, now shown wearing an iron mask, was Louis XIV’s twin brother

sanji had encountered the same fate as written in Alexandre DUMAS book (The Vicomte of Bragelonne: Ten Years Later). Declared dead for the country but condemned to wear a mask and to spend all his life in an horrible prison

and louis XIV was known as the sun king and kamen rider black rx is solar powered

and on judge removing his sons emotions I disagree with the claim that it was portrayed inconsistently I have always believe that when they talked about emotions it was emotions that would interfere with war like fear or compassion etc and on kylo redemption wellpeople say that he will be redeemed because one its star wars and kylo is the son of han solo and leia and han and luke believed in it second of all the parallels between kylo and anakin.reylo has repeatedly been referred to as reverse anidala https://reyloismyotpandiamtrash.tumblr.com/post/138720708699/star-wars-music-reylo

( heck the scene in TLJ where kylo offers to rule the galaxy with rey is similar to when anakin offered the same to padme ( heck if you put kylo the overlapped sections of Rey and Kylo’s themes are the same three notes IN REVERSE of the beginning notes of Padme and Anakin’s song!

So, what does that mean? Anakin started the (prequel) movies on the Light and faded into the Dark, right? His love and obsessive codependecy with Padme led him on a path to destruction.

But, Kylo Ren, he starts out this trilogy already Dark side, and if the music is suggesting romance mirroring, or progressing oppositely from Padme/Anakin’s story, wouldn’t that mean Kylo Ren comes back to the Light? That his love for and with Rey is strong and healthy enough to heal him from his evildoings on the Darkside? ¨

https://lovers-in-space.tumblr.com/post/188794226243/anidala-and-reylo-a-visual-comparation there are bunch of posts on it (and I have seen comments on how while DV was saved by a father and son connection where a romantic one didnt save him and he ended up causing the one he shared a romantic connections vdeath kylo ren couldnt be saved by a father and son relationship and ended up killing his father but could be saved by a romantic one,

Dec 9th 2019 at 3:20:00 AM

[up][x5]It was just to drive home just how nice Sanji is.

Just like he's willing to feed anyone who's hungry, even if it bites him in the ass later (as established back in Baratie), he also can't let his family get slaughtered, no matter how awful they are.

That's probably the reason why Oda made them so evil in the first place.

There's supposed to be a contrast between absolute asshole Germa boys and kind white sheep good guy Sanji, and it's all pretty unsubtle.

Edited by WashTheLaundryHero on Dec 9th 2019 at 3:23:10 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
Dec 9th 2019 at 3:20:32 AM

For what its worth, Sanji doesn't give a shit about them either. At least as far as family goes. He saved them because he's a good person, and then promptly told them to fuck off and leave him alone for life.

The Germa situation was pretty cut and dry though, so it's not as emotionally resonant.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Dec 9th 2019 at 4:04:02 AM

Rebelfalcon I think on the sephiroth the common belief was that sephiroths will wasnt his own for jenova was influencing him ¨Sephiroth was the result of a nigh parasitic alien’s DNA being combined with his and his mother’s. Alien DNA that allowed said alien to influence both mother and child. DNA that prevented the mother from dying when she tried to kill herself.¨

and when the writer said it wasnt the case the people I know had dropped DILP

slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Dec 9th 2019 at 4:07:29 AM

[up][up] The utter lack of nuance or complexity in the Germa becomes even weirder when they were prominent alongside the Big Mom Pirates who had some level of that.

Hell Katakuri had a character arc that had him change as a person which is a hell of a lot more than you can say for the red one or blue or green or even pink.

Can you see all of me? Walk into my mystery. Do you remember me? Capture you or set you free I am all. I am all... I am all of me
Dec 9th 2019 at 4:15:18 AM

To be fair, Reiju was the only one who had some human decency and she's an Anti-Villain at worst.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
Dec 9th 2019 at 4:42:54 AM

And Big Mom's children had the ball of issues that was Pudding. So it's not like they were completely good.

WCI had some pretty wonky characterization. And it has Oda's classic problem of too many characters in one given arc.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
RebelFalcon Fed up with humanity from sleeping in your bed Relationship Status: Abstaining
Fed up with humanity
Dec 9th 2019 at 8:38:35 AM

[up]As only a casual fan of One Piece, is it weird that I actually like Reiju and Pudding?

And, yeah, the Germa brothers are asshats no question. They're despicable, but I mainly just pity them. They're not even really people at this point anymore, they're monsters in human skin thanks to Judge's experiments, something even he realized he fucked up with. They won't earn my sympathy after the shit they've done to Sanji and their workers, but I will say their entire lives are just a testament to how fucked up everything is thanks to Judge, and that they ultimately lost whatever lives they could have had before even being born thanks to him.

I'm a Falcon, not Faction. Like Kurosaki from ARC-V. My Servants.
TitanJump Be thorough, be curious...be human. Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Be thorough, be curious...be human.
Dec 9th 2019 at 9:43:23 AM

I thought this was a MHA thread...

That said, what do you all think will come from the interrogation with Kurogiri?

Hints of "Cloud Boy" sipping through the mist or Eraserhead seriously trying to push his quirk to the point where the mist actually stops and reveals what's within it to us the readers?

Can a null-quirk be pushed that far?

Madness: an author's most magnificent muse and house maid.
Dec 9th 2019 at 9:47:39 AM

[up]I think he's pretty clearly trying to do the latter at the end of the chapter.

It's not a matter of pushing his quirk. If Kurogiri's mist is something he consciously emits (or at least shapes like that to disguise himself), then Aizawa should be able to erase it. It'd only fail if it's a mutant type.

Edited by WashTheLaundryHero on Dec 9th 2019 at 9:48:06 AM

Dec 9th 2019 at 9:50:16 AM

I don't think there's going to be an interrogation of Kurogiri - they already said that he flat out shuts down when they ask him anything relevant about the League, and I assume his origins would fall under that purview.

I'm not even expecting to pick up right back at that spot, this was just done to get this revelation out of the way for later.

Dec 9th 2019 at 9:56:12 AM

I dunno, that dramatic opening of the door at the end makes me think we're at least going to see what he looks like under the black mist. That should confirm whether he has Shirakumo's body or just his quirk.

devak They call me.... Prophet Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
Dec 9th 2019 at 10:26:06 AM

Seems to me that they've been interrogating Kurogiri for the past few months, to no success. Not sure why this would suddenly change.

My expectation is that we'll get some updates on how everyone's been doing in their internships

Dec 9th 2019 at 11:40:42 AM

[up]I could go for that. I feel like that mission Iida did with Manuel is going to be further elaborated on.

And they did say the lessons they were doing today were about how their internships were going.

Edited by LSBK on Dec 9th 2019 at 1:45:25 PM

sgamer82 from Middleton, ID
Dec 9th 2019 at 2:28:45 PM

[up] Manual, like manual transmission or instruction manual. Not Manuel as in the name.

Plus, remember how in Eragon everyone cries "a single tear"? Yeah, just try that with One Piece and see if it works
devak They call me.... Prophet Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
Dec 9th 2019 at 2:34:42 PM

[up]Seems to me that was just a typo.

Anyway, seems like everything's building to the big event, so i expect we'll see a bunch of mini-arcs set it up.

I'm particularly looking forward to Kaminari's growth. I hope he has more control over his lightning.

slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Dec 9th 2019 at 2:36:09 PM

Iida did get a cover so it be a bit odd if he didn’t do anything.

@Rebel I mean I dislike those two especially Reiju very much for either poor writing or Reiju in particular for being so horribly boring she puts me to sleep so. (Shrugs)

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 9th 2019 at 4:33:40 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
Dec 9th 2019 at 3:58:24 PM

I'd laugh immensely after I went through all of the trouble of consolidating the character pages, this ends up being a fucking Iida arc.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Dec 10th 2019 at 2:46:19 AM

Yeah, who'd guess the character intended to be important is important?


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