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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#34151: Sep 25th 2019 at 12:07:55 PM

I'd just assume they weren't a thing at least until the second holder.

sdsaa Since: Jan, 2019
#34152: Sep 26th 2019 at 4:38:42 PM

people on this forum answer me this what are your thoughts on the possibility of shigaraki redemption and people who bring up shigaraki redemption bring up the parallels between shigaraki and eri and similarity to what happened to them and say that shigaraki should get redemption because of that

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#34153: Sep 26th 2019 at 4:44:33 PM

Eri didn't intentionally murder her father...

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#34154: Sep 26th 2019 at 4:45:40 PM

Shiggy's a bit too far gone at this point.

At least Eri is getting help at a young age, Shiggy is an insane grown man on the other hand.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#34155: Sep 26th 2019 at 6:38:14 PM

Shiggy is one of those tragic cases where you can totally see that he could have been redeemed if he had been helped sooner, but it's nearly impossible to imagine a scenario where his current self could be redeemed.

Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#34156: Sep 26th 2019 at 6:57:00 PM

Shiggy could of possibly been redeemed when he was a child, if someone more morally sound got to him before All for One did. Sure, he would of likely been a traumatized and guilty wreck once he realized exactly what he did but atleast he would of had a chance.

As he is right now I don't think their is any chance of redeeming him. He is too far gone.

Edited by Wispy on Sep 26th 2019 at 6:58:07 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#34157: Sep 26th 2019 at 7:09:56 PM

In the present he's not so much someone to be redeemed as he is a serious threat to public safety that needs to be contained.

Disgusted, but not surprised
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#34158: Sep 26th 2019 at 8:32:20 PM

Eri and Shigaraki are obviously supposed to parallel one another, but in the sense of "showing what might have been both ways" not in "Eri was saved, so Shigaraki will be too", I think.

I can't say anything for certain, obviously, but I feel like everything we've found out makes any salvation for him less likely, not more. I would like for the series to directly address that the two characters have important similarities, though.

It's apparently going to be doing that with Endeavor and Bakugo this arc, so maybe later on we'll get something calling attention to Eri and Shigaraki together.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 26th 2019 at 1:30:04 PM

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#34159: Sep 26th 2019 at 10:39:00 PM

[up]That's pretty much what I was going to say. I think the parallels between the two of them exist primarily to demonstrate how much of a difference it can make depending on how people are treated and, on a slightly darker level how the people that heroes protect can potentially become the villains that heroes were protecting them from in the first place. More to the point, it highlights the importance of the more emotional side of hero work beyond just physically subduing the villains and calling it a day, namely actually caring for the mental wellbeing of people who are victimized.

Given that Endeavor is very good at the physical aspect, but poor on the emotional side, it would be interesting if this arc dug into that part of his character a little more.

As for Shirageki, I think it's unlikely that he's going to be completely turned good, if only because realistically it would take years of therapy to undo the damage that All for One's influence has called, never mind the parental abuse he experienced before that. Which honestly is kind of the point, he's an extremely tragic character who could've been a great hero if his life had gone differently, but despite that he's still too dangerous not to fight against. His backstory makes him sympathetic, but he still absolutely needs to be stopped.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#34160: Sep 26th 2019 at 10:41:27 PM

Yeah, he could have become a Hero if things were different. Heck, didn't Hori once show concept art of what Tenko Shimura would have been like as a Hero?

[down]Woops, you're right.

Edited by M84 on Sep 27th 2019 at 1:46:01 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#34161: Sep 26th 2019 at 10:42:23 PM

Right I forgot to post this.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-09-25/my-hero-academia-heroes-rising-film-casts-yoshio-inoue-mio-imada/.151544

Interestingly enough the main villain for the upcoming movie isn't just gonna be Nine, he also has a female cohort called Slice.

[up] Wasn't that fan-art?

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 26th 2019 at 10:42:42 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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#34162: Sep 26th 2019 at 10:43:45 PM

Gotta have someone for the girls to fight after all.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#34163: Sep 26th 2019 at 10:49:51 PM

Also Nine is after Shiggy as apart of his goal begging the question of whether he'll appear in the movie.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#34164: Sep 27th 2019 at 1:52:23 AM

Chapter out.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 27th 2019 at 1:52:37 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
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#34165: Sep 27th 2019 at 2:04:56 AM

Chapter is indeed out.

  • Mineta Requiem's power appears to be Glass Manipulation.
  • Some of the office workers nearby his position seem to be leaning towards the self-defense, but Endeavor intervenes before they can get to it.
  • Old man hauls ass and baits Endeavor into an ambush - the ambushers thus get decimated by the stude-psyche, Hawks!
  • On his way to the police car, the old man decries Endeavor "the root of darkness", in that the light he (Endeavor) radiates invites darkness.
  • Hawks confirms Tokoyami is not interning with him, having sent him to do sidekick work in his hometown.
  • Bakugo talks smack that he was faster than Hawks; the latter just waves him off.
  • Hawks pulls out Destro's book and shows it off to Endeavor and the students, to their confusion. He gives out a roundabout praise of MLA and recommends Endeavor that he has a look.
  • He concludes this roundabout praise - as the only way he could tell Endeavor what's going on with him recently - with an ominous statement that should Destro's goal be realized, both of them would have too much free time on their hands. Feels like Endeavor is drawing wrong conclusions, recalling Hawks's earlier admission that this would be his ideal world.

So... this probably much unneeded shadiness is likely to become a problem in this arc.

grah
SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#34166: Sep 27th 2019 at 2:21:52 AM

I just realized that Hawks is actually shonen archetype as well ._.; I mean I'm pretty sure we have seen "double agent who first appears as good guy, then as bad guy only upon defeat turns out they were good all along" character in multiple series, we just don't usually learn they are double agent first :P

Edited by SpookyMask on Sep 27th 2019 at 12:22:04 PM

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#34167: Sep 27th 2019 at 4:31:30 AM

I feel so bad for Hawks right now.

the odds for him receiving a sad end just went up by fifteen percent. (as in "going down as a perceived "villain" rather than a hero", thanks to his benefactors.)

That would strike Hero Society hard if that happens...

that said, that Glass guy's quirk was pretty interesting and raised some questions. Does it work on pure glass alone or other sorts of glass, like windshields and the like?

Good chapter in overall

Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#34168: Sep 27th 2019 at 5:15:15 AM

Remember that Hawks is riddled with listening and detection devices. Really, he should have been given a contact person he could plausibly just run in to.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#34169: Sep 27th 2019 at 7:00:37 AM

[up]

agreed. Along with some code in order to relay information.

As it is now, he's pretty adrift, with no perceivable way to share what he knows.

One Strip! One Strip!
WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#34170: Sep 27th 2019 at 7:10:13 AM

[up][x5]I think that's exactly the conclusion Hawks wants him to have. He wants Endeavor to realize that saying they'd have too much free time contradicts what he told him earlier about wanting to have more free time.

What was the glass guy even trying to do and does it really warrant an arrest?

Edited by WashTheLaundryHero on Sep 27th 2019 at 7:11:54 AM

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#34171: Sep 27th 2019 at 7:20:37 AM

Vandalism and theft. He stole that company's windows.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#34172: Sep 27th 2019 at 7:23:43 AM

The conclusion I'm drawing is that Endeavor might be misinterpreting his words as being legit rather than trying to convey a message.

But isn't Endeavor aware that he's infiltrated the League? Unless he thinks he's been indoctrinated

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#34173: Sep 27th 2019 at 8:17:38 AM

Hawks infiltrating the League was top secret info and Endeavor isn't aware of that, so no. In addition, Hawks did ask for code in the last chapter. His run-in with endeavor is mostly because he wants Endeavor involved. It's interesting because this suggests Hawks doesn't trust the government to do the right thing

As to hawks' fate, it's not gonna end well. I think death is too simple and cheesy. He's caught in an impossible place as both a top10 hero and a PLF infiltrator, something he'll have to juggle. And it's unlikely he can keep this up forever.

It's interesting to see Endeavor adapt. He looks so much like Hood when he's flying, and it's funny that his fire mustache seems to fuel the wing-structure on his shoulders. He's also ridiculously fast, him being gone before the shockwave reached Deku implies supersonic speeds.

Lastly, i love that panel work. Endy setup for an ambush, but then the boys show up to save him, only for Hawks to killsteal them!

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#34174: Sep 27th 2019 at 9:40:51 AM

[up]

I'm honestly not even sure if Endeavour was really in any danger from that trap either. He just didn't get the chance to show it because the other's all stepped in.

One Strip! One Strip!
devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#34175: Sep 27th 2019 at 10:29:22 AM

[up] probably not, but we don't really know if they had a plan other than whacking him.

Edited by devak on Sep 27th 2019 at 7:30:44 PM


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