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Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#426: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:33:47 PM

People have doxxed Ajit Pai and his family. Their emails and private numbers are now out in public.

edited 14th Dec '17 12:34:09 PM by Wariolander

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#427: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:34:43 PM

For fuck's sake, that just makes the opposition as a whole look unreasonable...

Idiots.

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#428: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:34:50 PM

[up][up][up]At this point, I think it's intentional. He's like a wrestling heel, trying to make people ate him as much as possible, but it's not part of a show.

[up]&[up][up] wild mass guessIt's all part of a trick by Pai to discredit his critics.wild mass guess

edited 14th Dec '17 12:36:50 PM by TroperOnAStickV2

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
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#429: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:36:28 PM

He wants to be able to claim that he's being persecuted by all those cyber-terrorists and possibly even justify calls to start mass surveillance and/or start pursuing witch hunts against protesters.

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ThePest179 Since: Jul, 2015
#430: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:37:19 PM

The thing about doxing is that all you have to do to do it is look up someone's employment history or voting records, which are 100% public. Almost everyone has their dox open and on the internet for everyone to see. Ajit Pai getting "doxed" isn't shocking in the least.

Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#431: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:37:48 PM

[up][up] Except most of the country won't buy that shit, because 3/4 of Republicans were against the repeal too.

edited 14th Dec '17 12:38:00 PM by Wariolander

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#432: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:38:28 PM

I'd normally dismiss the idea that the doxxing is a false flag operation, but given Pai's refusal to investigate the fake comments using stolen identities in support of repealing NN...

Pai's clearly not above doing shady shit to get what he wants.

edited 14th Dec '17 12:39:07 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#433: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:41:04 PM

[up][up] It doesn't matter to this administration. They do not give a rat's ass about public opinion; that much is clear. Their agenda is to loot-and-scoot, and secondarily to leave such a mess behind that it'll take years to get everything put back together. The battle was lost last November; we're simply gawping at the outcome like circus spectators.

This is why I find the outrage that's coming out now to be so darkly humorous.

As it says below, [down] don't send death threats to the FCC. Channel your outrage into actions that will increase the chances of this decision being reversed in the future.

edited 14th Dec '17 12:43:02 PM by Fighteer

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#434: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:41:04 PM

Good thread about what you can do about it:

Ok, all. The FCC has voted to start rolling back #Net Neutrality . Here's what we do next.

First, recognize this is not unexpected. As I've been saying for weeks, the breakdown of the board suggested this would happen.

1. First, understand that this is NOT the end. I've seen many, many tweets suggesting this vote is the death knell for the internet. That's simply not true.

Read the document I linked in this tweet. This won't happen overnight.

2. Understand just what #Net Neutrality  is and isn't. This @mashable video will help.

I'm seeing a lot of tweets suggesting #Net Neutrality  means cutting off access; it's more slowing/throttling access for more $. (Broadly speaking)

3. Now, here are some actionable steps.

A. Nix the desire to hate email the FCC. Do people like Pai deserve it? Hell yes. But it's not going to get anything done.

B. Email your House Members/Senators TODAY and tell them you want the ball rolling on a telecoms bill.

B1. I'm getting some questions about HR 4585, and whether we ask electeds to support. Going to say no - the bill address the FCC/rule, and not the root of this problem, which is this should be enshrined into law.

Until laws happen, #Net Neutrality  will be a political football.

C. Call your state attorneys general, and ask them how they plan on addressing the FCC’s changes.

They’re going to have similar powers to protect consumers from anti-competitive practices. Additionally, ask them to sign off on the letter calling to investigate fake comments.

D. Check out news sites/tech sites for lawsuits about Net Neutrality, and donate to their efforts. Start with places like @WIRED. Donate to those causes. Spread the word.

E. Tell your preferred 2018 Dem candidates, you want them to add #Net Neutrality  to their platform.

Why? Because:

A. You want to know what they’ll do about Net Neutrality if elected, B. Making Net Neutrality a leading campaign issue, can very likely encourage even more volunteer/voter interest.

(Seriously, I think the DSCC/DCCC should make this a campaign point)

edited 14th Dec '17 12:41:25 PM by megaeliz

Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#435: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:43:39 PM

I'm seriously considering moving back to Europe at this point.

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#436: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:47:00 PM

[up] Take me with you, I don't wanna live here anymore.

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#437: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:47:25 PM

People have doxxed Ajit Pai and his family. Their emails and private numbers are now out in public.

While Aijit Pai is a douchebag of the highest order, dragging someone's family into this is crossing a line.

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
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#438: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:49:41 PM

[up][up] and [up][up][up]: This is the straw that broke your backs? Wow, must be nice inside that bubble.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#439: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:50:46 PM

[up][up] As awful as that is, some part of me is going, "Well what did you expect would happen if you anger the internet, and then blatantly troll about it?" Did you think everyone would thank you for selling them out?

edited 14th Dec '17 12:52:10 PM by megaeliz

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#440: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:51:58 PM

Is there free internet there? You might a wait 50 years until it's reversed cuz I'm offically leaving tvtropes. Sure it might not,be affected but to be safe I'm just moving. Thud just puts more fuel to the fire.

MIA
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#441: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:53:52 PM

[up] Don't totally freak out yet. There is a multistate lawsuit being lead by the New York Attorney General, and several other organizations will follow suite. In fact, I'm going to guess that many of these lawsuits were planned months in advance and can be put in place immediately.

edited 14th Dec '17 12:56:07 PM by megaeliz

Wariolander Since: Nov, 2017
#442: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:54:47 PM

[up][up][up][up] Internet is the only thing keeping a lot of people sane these days, and now it's ruined, at least for the US. I only hope the rest of the world has enough brain cells/self-worth to not follow the US on this, just like what happened when they pulled out of the Paris Accords.

edited 14th Dec '17 12:55:15 PM by Wariolander

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#443: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:56:40 PM

[up][up] and [up][up][up]: This is the straw that broke your backs? Wow, must be nice inside that bubble.

It's called "the straw that broke the camel's back", not "the concrete block that broke the camel's back". tongue

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#444: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:56:58 PM

[up][up]Relax a bit. It'll take years for the full impact of the change to take effect, and that leaves a lot of time for legal processes (and new elections) to work on reversing it. It's not like you'll wake up tomorrow and find Comcast charging $10/month to let you visit TV Tropes.

edited 14th Dec '17 12:57:10 PM by Fighteer

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#445: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:58:02 PM

[up][up]Anyway the internet is massively important to our economy and society, being outraged by it being attacked like this is a perfectly reasonably position to take.

edited 14th Dec '17 12:58:16 PM by Fourthspartan56

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#446: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:58:25 PM

People have likely already mentioned this, but there's a very simple reason why people care more about Net Neutrality as opposed to other, more serious or long-lasting political issues:

A lot of people don't really have strong political opinions one way or the other, or really much in the way of information. Largely, I suspect, because they're so cushioned that they feel they can afford to not care (though in fairness, separating fact from fiction and learning about the intricacies of government, economics, political policy, etc is a challenging endeavor, especially for people who might not have a lot of free time to dig into these issues). They're largely concerned with their personal everyday lives and their entertainment and don't really care about anything else that's going on in the world.

So the moment that their access to online gaming, movies, youtube, or whatever else is threatened, then suddenly it's personal.

I should probably note that I'm not making this accusation towards anyone posting here. This is just an observation since people mentioned the trend.

edited 14th Dec '17 1:00:31 PM by Draghinazzo

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#447: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:59:01 PM

[up]Well, I hope this teaches them that being informed is important. Anyone with an ounce of political awareness could have predicted this coming long before Trump won the election.

edited 14th Dec '17 12:59:32 PM by Fighteer

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#448: Dec 14th 2017 at 12:59:28 PM

@Fighteer: Some people's livelihoods are undoubtedly being put at risk because of these changes, and for such people I can absolutely see that being the impetus for emigrating.

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#449: Dec 14th 2017 at 1:00:14 PM

And people's livelihoods are impacted by a lot of the other things this administration is doing. I'm not saying it's not important, but that choosing this one issue to fall on one's sword over strikes me as incredibly disingenuous.

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edited 14th Dec '17 1:00:57 PM by Fighteer

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#450: Dec 14th 2017 at 1:00:58 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like a lot of the doomsaying isn't gonna get us anywhere. Much less when the repeal's goal is to target companies like Google and not the common consumer.

And to that I'd imagine there's other things that we'll feel more than just slower internet speeds at most. Not to say that this isn't an issue but it's... uh, part of a package deal with other ones.

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