BoJack Horseman

I didn't say Bojack was. It's not like Bojack is supposed to be a role model, here. That's still a great line.

That eleventh episode didn't disappoint. Poor Sarah Lynn. "I wanna be an architect."

(cries)

I note that people here said "Netflix is starting to forget this is a comedy, they even said "The Acclaimed Drama" and then this season came and was more comedic and people dont like that."

Bojack's money must have been well invested for him to still be able to live in a cliff-side mansion 18 years after he last worked.

edited 1st Aug '16 7:28:37 PM by BigMadDraco

I believe it's implied Bojack's residuals from Horsin Around are his primary source of income.

I really like this show and it was really refreshing to see them thematizing abortion and actually going through with it.

But there's one thing what really bugs me, in this world animals still have animal needs and behaviours yet humans and animal-people can interbreed? I mean they literally said that Diane could have a litter. That means 6-8 puppies. That's actually kind of scary. Especially with some types of animals, like horses . And how does that even work with humans and birds; like the bird and the human having a human son in season 3. Did she lay an egg and a human boy popped out? The birds in that universe do lay eggs, so I am a little confused how that whole thing is supposed to work.

How it's supposed to work is you're not supposed to think about it too much.

So I was watching a video by some internet critic and he was really gassing up this show, and it sounded like pretty much exactly my thing, so I decided to give it a watch.

I was intrigued by the first three episodes...and by the ending of the fourth, I got sucker punched. Emotionally. Episode 5 continued that. I think this might end up being something really special by the end, and I'm excited to keep watching. It reminds me of when I read Oyasumi Punpun for the first time, which was amazingly depressing but exactly because of that it was such a strong portrait of the human condition.

I don't want to post in here too much, I think I might already kinda love this show and don't want to accidentally spoiler anything.

edited 8th Aug '16 5:53:58 PM by Draghinazzo

Are there any critics who don't like this show, or are at least lukewarm on it?

I'm sure there must be. Not the person to ask, though, sorry.

...Oyasumi Punpun looks kind of great, just going by the trope page.

There's one review of season 3 to the tune of "I don't find it very funny, but I guess I see what the appeal is," and the reviews for season 1 were generally not very good on account of reviewers only looking at the first six episodes (AV Club changed its system because of this).

If you like Bojack, it's worth a look. I feel the two are honestly pretty similar spiritually, in the sense that they go into a dark abyss that very few works dare to tread.

Got to the 4th to last episode. Darkness Induced Audience Apathy.

Honestly, not sure why people are so amazed by fictional works being real and depressing. Real life is real and depressing and nobody likes it

This one?

Yes, that one.

I kind of wonder if some where down the line we're going to see Bo Jack on the other side of things, where someone else is coming through like a hurricane and he's the one left holding the bag.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/BojackHorsemanBojackHorseman

I know it's not uncommon for individual characters to have their own pages, but this is the first time I've ever seen a character page separated into two other pages. Good lord.

I'm personally amazed that this is the only Western Animation show to have its own page for Deconstructed Trope

edited 11th Aug '16 5:34:19 AM by Pachylad

I'm sure characters from shows popular with tropers have multiple character pages.

I'm really looking forward to the next season. I'm wondering if they are going to use Ethan Around as an actual running plot or if it's going to be dropped rather quickly like the thing with Jill Pill.

I never really thought Jill Pill herself was supposed to be important, or at least not more important than the reveal that Bojack had ANOTHER show.

So I really don't understand what is exactly Todd's beef with Bojack in "It's You" over him having slept with Emily? She had just been turned down by Todd and I never got the sense that they were in a relationship yet, at least by that point.

edited 14th Aug '16 5:48:24 AM by ZeroPoint

It's more about reaching a boiling point. Todd's been simmering over the awareness that Bojack did *something* to upset Emily for a while now. He knows what Bojack is like. He's been betrayed, insulted, taken for granted, and condescended to for five years, and perhaps most frustrating of all Bojack has simply lied to his face all this time. Last season Bojack claimed Todd was his best friend, and that he was going to try harder. Yet here we are again, a year later, and what's happened?

The fact that the scale of the betrayal is so much worse than just being crude to her escalates an already bad situation. It's all a little convoluted to explain in detail, but pretty straightforward, emotionally: Bojack knew Todd was interested in Emily on some level, or at the very least that Emily was interested in Todd. Their situation is written as deliberately ambiguous, but there's obviously something going on.

Bojack could have slept with anybody, he's a movie star now. He slept with Emily because she was convenient and vulnerable, because she was there— even knowing what he was doing would hurt both Emily *and* Todd. Bojack's not dumb enough to get to pretend he couldn't see that. He did it anyway. Then he lied about it. And that, more than anything, that lack of respect for someone he claims is his friend is what pushes Todd past the breaking point. Being sorry after the fact isn't enough— not if you're just going to do the same thing over and over again.

edited 14th Aug '16 1:32:46 PM by Unsung

Bojack will die in the 11th episode of the last season.