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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1: Mar 20th 2014 at 6:14:13 AM

What Do You Mean, It's Not Cosmetic? is an somewhat old and well-crosswicked page, but it has a line of dialogue title and only 5 inbounds - a common consequence of line of dialogue titles, especially when they are also snowclones. Which is a bit of a disappointing performance.

Was discussed here a bit and was suggested to take it to TRS.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Mar 20th 2014 at 10:04:40 PM

It looks like the description needs a little fleshing out as well.

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#3: Apr 4th 2014 at 2:02:59 AM

Bump. Any action here?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#4: Apr 4th 2014 at 3:54:33 AM

None so far, and I don't like asking for a rename crowner with so little input.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#5: Apr 4th 2014 at 4:38:04 PM

OK, heads up: I play video games only very, very little, so I'm not exposed to tropes related to video games much.

But this one could definitely use a new name and the description should be expanded — it mentions it looks like Cosmetic Award at first, so the comparison of the two could be elaborated on. Does it subvert the Cosmetic Award perhaps?

Also, it needs a bit of clean-up with Example Indentation and general example misuse like this one: "Many MMORP Gs nowadays attach small stat bonuses to their Titles. Developers occasionally get carried away." It's my understanding that broad generalizations about recent development are not allowed to be posted.

edited 4th Apr '14 4:39:15 PM by XFllo

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#6: May 6th 2014 at 9:44:48 AM

Single prop crowner's hooked.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#7: Jun 6th 2014 at 3:39:47 AM

Votes bump; renaming is at 5-1.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#8: Jul 6th 2014 at 1:35:47 AM

Another votes bump; now 11-2 in favour of renaming.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#9: Aug 5th 2014 at 5:59:27 AM

Calling for the rename.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Aug 5th 2014 at 6:25:40 AM

Will do the alt names crowner once I am back home.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#11: Aug 5th 2014 at 8:35:13 AM

Made the names crowner, although it can use better name suggestions.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#13: Aug 5th 2014 at 12:21:25 PM

Downvoted Not Just Cosmetic because it's broader than the trope.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#15: Aug 5th 2014 at 1:06:51 PM

That seems to lack the Cosmetic Award aspect, methinks.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#16: Aug 5th 2014 at 1:14:41 PM

I don't see how personally. Video games with an Achievement System basically offer nothing but cosmetic awards 99% of the time. It's the 1% that don't that comprise What Do You Mean, It's Not Cosmetic?. Hence the name I suggested.

edited 5th Aug '14 1:15:16 PM by VeryMelon

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#17: Aug 13th 2014 at 2:30:16 AM

Bumping for votes; right now, everything is in red. I dunno why.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
DiamondWeapon Since: Jan, 2001
#19: Aug 24th 2014 at 3:30:14 AM

I'm not really sure we need a separate trope for what is essentially a simple subversion of Cosmetic Award.

But anyway, since the trope references Cosmetic Award, that is what the name should reference too. Not Achievement System.

Also, not all bonuses given by achievement lists are necessarily examples. Achievements only "look like a Cosmetic Award" in games where most of them actually are.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#20: Aug 27th 2014 at 12:20:03 AM

Votes bump!

All else in red.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#21: Aug 29th 2014 at 11:31:48 AM

This needs some more votes because right now nothing is winning.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#22: Sep 2nd 2014 at 7:25:36 PM

Not Actually Cosmetic Award is leading.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#23: Sep 11th 2014 at 6:17:56 AM

Bumping to point out once again that Not Actually Cosmetic Award is leading.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#25: Sep 26th 2014 at 5:29:48 AM

Did the rename.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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5th May '14 8:47:13 AM

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