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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#351: Sep 7th 2019 at 7:04:12 PM

I believe it was stated in some side material that Adepts ended up destroying the rest of the world pretty much. Not sure on the specifics though.

That said, it could have been in a non-hostile way, like countries took advantage of Adepts to wage war against each other, with some just fighting in self-defense, and the firepower wielded by each side was so great, the world got fucked over. As a result everyone began to hate and fear Adepts, and basically it's just a cycle of fear and violence.

I could buy that. Sumeragi (Both versions) seem to have a thing for using Adepts as weapons, despite being made up of Adepts themselves.

There may be a lot of Adepts who are all like Shoo fly, don't bother me about the entire thing, only to end up being used as weapons against their will like Joule and Rebellio.

Then they end up getting blamed for it, which likely resulted in groups like Eden.

Human Nature at it's finest.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#352: Sep 7th 2019 at 8:36:58 PM

Some bosses like Elise or Desna weren't aggressive normally.

Well, Desna is aggressive towards Gunvolt, but reluctantly towards Copen oddly enough.

Mega_zxa Since: Mar, 2015
#353: Sep 7th 2019 at 9:23:19 PM

After giving Kohaku's bio another look I would be more surprised if she isn't an adept. I mean first she is effectively the heart of the group, so her being an adept would have the most emotional payoff for the kids. Second she is salvaging all these machines but she doesn't have any training and is just going off of intuition. Third is the fact that her bio states that she is actually able to get them working successfully for purposes that are far different than their original purpose, plus the way they present it with the ellipse.

Yeah I'm calling it now Kohaku is an adept with a septima that affects machines.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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Zistal Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#355: Sep 9th 2019 at 5:01:37 PM

In iX's unexplained setting, it's highly questionable if Mytyl is even a factor.

I would say it's because X is his personal symbol, and Inti Creates doesn't want to call him X, but the X isn't all that visible on his design in 2 and beyond.

RedRob Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#356: Sep 9th 2019 at 6:03:20 PM

Didn't one of the mangas have an evil clone of X called iX?

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Zistal Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#357: Sep 10th 2019 at 5:08:02 PM

[up]I believe so.

Another tidbit from a recent gameplay stream: Darkness Mode Lola will attack Copen if he doesn't target enemies quickly enough, although her damage won't kill him.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#359: Sep 11th 2019 at 6:18:40 AM

How does Lola get alternate mode anyway? (likely something story related)

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Zistal Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#360: Sep 11th 2019 at 1:18:52 PM

No clue about Awakening Mode, but Darkness Mode is suspected to be related to Blade. His skill is Berserk Trigger, while dark mode is activated with "Darkness Trigger" on the EX Weapon list (although its icons are different from the others), and the site description says "a lightning septima" is utilized for the weapon/mode.

I think it's something unlocked in the second Blade fight rather than a proper EX Weapon earned by defeating him. In the intro stage encounter Copen loses because none of his weapons actually hurt Blade, so I assume Darkness Trigger's power boost is how he wins round 2.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#361: Sep 24th 2019 at 7:00:15 AM

So this game is out in 2 days:

Any news on more plot elements?

Is the theory of Kohaku being an Adept on the money?

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#362: Sep 25th 2019 at 12:49:36 PM

Luminous Avenger is out. From what I hear from /v/, there's good news for everyone who hates Copen!

Copen's been made significantly more likable, but you're going to wind up hating a certain someone else WAAAAAY more than you ever did him.

Edited by Hobgoblin on Sep 25th 2019 at 7:17:32 AM

Aquaconda Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#363: Sep 25th 2019 at 1:21:21 PM

Good God, the edge is too much.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#364: Sep 25th 2019 at 7:25:02 PM

It's definitely darker than previous games, though the story seems a bit shorter than before.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#365: Sep 25th 2019 at 7:47:45 PM

Huh, so this game Takes place in the future of the Bad Ending where Asimov killed Gunvolt in 1. Interesting.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#367: Sep 25th 2019 at 8:37:27 PM

Yeah, the game is pretty vague about what's going on, and then just dumps every single plot twist it has on you around the time of the final boss.

The first one is just what The Butterfly Effect is.

verifiaman Since: Sep, 2015
#368: Sep 25th 2019 at 9:07:09 PM

so its the 26th...games not unlocking on the switch..

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#369: Sep 25th 2019 at 9:15:40 PM

Regarding some questions you might have in response to late-game reveals, I found two pictures that should explain it.

Here's what happened to a certain group of Adepts.

And as for the fate of a certain late-game character...

verifiaman Since: Sep, 2015
#370: Sep 25th 2019 at 9:21:04 PM

So any US region switch owners. is the game unlocking for you?

RedRob Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#371: Sep 26th 2019 at 5:56:30 AM

Pretty disappointed with how they never followed up on that secret ending from GV 2. Or rather how the game after GV 2 doesn't really do anything to continue the story.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#372: Sep 26th 2019 at 8:00:34 AM

Kinda agreed.

I also kinda wish Copen himself had been more involved with Gunvolt's death somehow. That way, he'd have to live with the fact that his actions directly resulted in the current world, his own immortality, and that of his sister. Though he seems to lose much of his hatred towards adepts after seeing what Sumeragi does to them, so maybe that's not really necessary.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#373: Sep 26th 2019 at 8:13:44 AM

I'm sure a Gunvolt 3 would continue on that line. Not sure what this game is intended to do for the narrative, though.

I was also pretty surprised that Copen not only spared Blade, but also got mad at Asimov for treating Adepts like tools. He even has an optional conversation with the kids where he says that he wishes humans and Adepts could get along.

RedRob Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#374: Sep 26th 2019 at 9:43:15 AM

[up][up] Would at least provide some form of growth for Copen that doesn't border on Adaptational Heroism in showing what happens when you let your hate take you over.

Not that I actually played the game. But still, this sounds less like a continuation or addition to the franchise's story, and more like some dumbass fanfic writer DILP-ing Copen.

[up] Speaking of which, what is Blade's deal? He's a GV clone or something?

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#375: Sep 26th 2019 at 9:46:04 AM

Blade is Kohaku's sister, who was kidnapped by Sumeragi and forcibly implanted with a Lightning Septima in order to replace Gunvolt in Asimov's plans.


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