Gotham

That digital effect was horrendous though.

Cameron Monaghan is a wonderful actor. Jerome and Jeremiah are actually like two different people.

edited 6th Apr '18 6:36:13 AM by Xeroop

He's been an amazing actor since he first appeared. I went into his introduction episode on Netflix without any trailers, so I was amazed/surprised when he went from meek and friendly to nuts.

• The Xanatos Gambit Pileup in this show is unreal.
• If you had told me back in Season 2 that Lee and Nygma would be a thing I never would have believed you.
• I looked up the scene where Barbara returns and thought, "here goes Gotham again, killing off characters and their relationships and then reintroducing them in a different way." I looked over to the suggested videos list and, by Ep 7, there's a scene in which Barbara fires Selina and Tabitha. This, after a seemingly genuine apology five episodes prior. That's so Gotham.
• Jerome has brought together more villains with unique personalities and defined backstories than the Arrowverse, MCU, DCEU, and the Netflixverse combined.

I can't criticize this show for being stagnant. I'd looked down on it for getting so off the rails and being so goofy, but, it might be the most enjoyable "comic book" show on the air right now.

edited 6th Apr '18 4:42:03 PM by Soble

Yeah, the villain gathering here was the strongest part. It also annoyed at how much the C Wverse wasted the Rogues, but that's neither here or there. Albeit, Firefly is the only one with iffy and undefined motivations or goals.

Cameron Monaghan is incredible. I hope he has a nice and long career.

I don't like Jeremiah getting turned into the Joker like that. I prefer when it's just unfortunate circumstances, not deliberately. I hope he gets cured and goes on to help Gotham like he was planning to, then Bruce accidentally dunks him into Ace Chemicals.

Wow. They went all in on the 1989 Batman homages didn't they?

I'm pretty much on the same page with you, but a synopsis for a future episode suggests that Jeremiah still tries to keep his sanity with him, but is starting to slip.

I want an episode with Bruce's car. I don't care who is driving it.

It is pretty awesome.

ra's al judge death looked pretty awesome this ep i must say

Yeah, they actually did a good job at making Zombie Ra's come off as creepy and formidable.

Barbara has overstayed her time in the show, though.

At this point, naming a certain sidekick/hacker after her would make absolutely no sense.

It would be great for her to get named after her just to see her reaction when she learns about the Barbra she was named after in the Gotham Universe.

I always thought by the end of the show, Jim should adopt an orphaned girl that just happens to be named Barbara.

@Blueace: IKR?

The way this show it going, I wouldn't put it past them to de-age Kean (which also mysteriously changes her hair color) and have Jim develop amnesia and believe Babs is his actual daughter.

I'm betting on a suspiciously similar sister who happens to be related to the Penguin somehow.

so their joker is giving me judge doom vibes

edited 1st May '18 10:35:50 PM by Deadpoolrocks

Aw, they probably took it down since it was supposed to be a preview of next week's ep, not this week's.

Jeremiah's creepy, but he's even less Joker-like than Jerome.

I'm sure he'll be getting there.

Also, how was Jerome not Joker-like?

For one thing, Jeremiah wasn't smiling.

edited 2nd May '18 2:28:08 PM by Eagal

I felt like they were going for the "three Jokers" thing. But I'm not sure which type of Joker this is, and I'm not sure what the trajectory is for this character.

Jerome was New 52 Joker.

Jeremiah might be Nicholson Joker.

There's still the kid who picked up the red hood mask back in Season 1 unless that was just Early Installment Weirdness.

Did anyone notice in the new episode ("That Old Corpse") that the Penguin and Grundy are watching "Bimbo's Initiation" at the dinner table?