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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#10301: Feb 20th 2019 at 8:27:43 AM

Alternate universes are entirely valid. Like, I like the shared universe but if they want to do something radical (e.g. kill of a popular character, make a big setting change) it's just easier to do a stand-alone. And hell, if you want some characters from it to appear somewhere else, multiverse travel exists.

PennyDreadful Since: May, 2010
#10302: Feb 20th 2019 at 8:57:45 AM

This is true. I just don't get DC's constant obsession with death, horror, and grimdark. It's just...tired.

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#10303: Feb 20th 2019 at 10:19:54 AM

[up]Because Didio thinks grimdark sells.

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#10304: Feb 20th 2019 at 10:34:06 AM

Well sadly... Grimdark Melodrama is what took DC to their high

Its a fairly simply answer to the Question

Why does DC keep trying to go back to the late 90s through the 00s

"Cause it made them the most money!"

As much as we like to rag on that era... a large chunk us of stupidly bought the issues

We caved to the event comic craze , 52, Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis

Blackest night and its fifty billion tie ins... and then all of Brightest days shit cause we wanted answers to Blackest Nights lingering question... Boy did we strike out on that one.

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PennyDreadful Since: May, 2010
#10305: Feb 20th 2019 at 10:48:12 AM

[up][up]Rebirth also sold quite well, didn't it? I just think DC's books are made by and for the people who run the place, that's all.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10306: Feb 20th 2019 at 11:00:57 AM

[up][up]It should be pointed out that DC was at their most optimistic in the 90s. Hell some of their legacy characters were more herioc than their predecessors.

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#10307: Feb 20th 2019 at 11:03:28 AM

52 and FC are legit straight-up good.

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#10308: Feb 20th 2019 at 11:13:20 AM

Being good wasn't the problem cause they succeeded you had inferior follow ups that also sold due to hype even if they got panned later

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10309: Feb 20th 2019 at 11:18:11 AM

Maybe just have a separate non-canon imprint for all these grimdark books where DC can tell these stories as much as they like but it won't affect the mainstream DC universe

That's what Black label is supposed to be.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10310: Feb 20th 2019 at 11:20:56 AM

Batman: Damned is Black Label.

Also, Batman: Last Knight on Earth looks pretty awesome. And did The Other History of the DC Universe ever come out? Wasn't it solicited for January?

bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#10311: Feb 20th 2019 at 12:36:54 PM

Is there a modern version of the old letters column? Where the editors would reply to reader comments?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10312: Feb 20th 2019 at 12:38:55 PM

Marvel still has their letters column in a lot of their comics. DC, I believe, doesn't.

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#10313: Feb 20th 2019 at 12:39:01 PM

Funny isnt it. Just as soon as things start to look up for the film side of DC the comics side decides to basically throw away the good deal they have and jump the shark so hard that they jump the Atlantic

Edited by Invincibleasshole on Feb 20th 2019 at 12:40:36 PM

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shanejayell Since: Jun, 2011
#10314: Feb 20th 2019 at 6:26:52 PM

'The Other History of the DCU' has been postponed indefinately, last I checked... sad

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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#10316: Feb 21st 2019 at 9:17:53 AM

...holy fuck. What is going on at DC?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10317: Feb 21st 2019 at 9:49:44 AM

Damn, it's like the DC Implosion all over again.

I mean, a reduction in 10% to 15% is better than cutting back to only 22 comics a month, but it doesn't imply good things — Warner Media might see DC Comics as not making enough money to justify their existence other than as IP.

Edited by alliterator on Feb 21st 2019 at 9:50:14 AM

PennyDreadful Since: May, 2010
#10318: Feb 21st 2019 at 11:55:55 AM

[up][up][up][up]Why was the book postponed?

Edited by PennyDreadful on Feb 21st 2019 at 11:56:05 AM

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#10319: Feb 21st 2019 at 12:05:21 PM

Is there really any idea how this crash happened? I can't see it being just because Johns left.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#10320: Feb 21st 2019 at 5:32:01 PM

I'm waiting for the online petition to remove Dan Didio

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#10321: Feb 21st 2019 at 5:34:24 PM

Is there actual evidence Didio is the responsible party?

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#10322: Feb 21st 2019 at 5:35:36 PM

No but I'm blaming him anyway.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10323: Feb 21st 2019 at 10:28:15 PM

Having a reduction in the number of books they are publishing has nothing to do with Didio or with the EIC at all. It probably has to do with the fact that Marvel has been consistently outselling DC and the gap between them has been growing larger. DC might have the backing of Warner Media, but Warner Media won't back them if they don't actually make any money, hence the cutting back of books. This saves the money it would take to make them and means that they are pretty much only selling the books that they know will make money.

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#10324: Feb 22nd 2019 at 12:48:03 PM

[up]Don't the Diamond numbers just account for physical floppy sales? That said, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that overall sales numbers including trades/digital/bookstores/etc. reflected the same thing.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#10325: Feb 22nd 2019 at 12:55:55 PM

It might also be due to the fact that Marvel has Marvel Unlimited, while DC has DC Universe. True, DC Universe has more than just comics, but it doesn't have all the comics that Marvel Unlimited has, only comics that it's "curated." So fans of the comics might not get DC Universe. (Also, DC Universe is relatively new anyway, so it might not even factor in yet.)


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