I wonder what kids think of this episode. It's all over the place in terms of how mature it wants to be about it's subject matter. Predators don't eat prey, except when they do. The snake is really threatening, but eating another creature is played for laughs, and the snake switches between threatening and friendly several times.

Post of the Day #2625

Posted by darkabomination on Sat, 6th Apr '13 2:58:57 PM - Post #354613 in the old thread

Post of the Day #2626

Posted by Beware The Worlock on Mon, 22nd Oct '12 1:43:40 PM - Post #295167 in the old thread

I know that says it's from the old thread, but that sounds like what Snowfall Frost did in "A Hearth's Warming Tale". Except what she did (getting rid of Hearth's Warming Eve because she didn't like it) is portrayed as being wrong. It does make me wonder what episode that post is referring to, though. (if it even is referring to a canon MLP episode)

Edited by Rainbow on Sep 2nd 2019 at 12:06:34 PM

I checked, and it turns out to be referring to the infamous censoring of Derpy in The Last Roundup. I would not have guessed that.

Oh no, where we will be without our insulting to the mentally disabled Muffins.

Is this the same person who would complain about Confederacy statues being torn down?

Edited by fredhot16 on Sep 2nd 2019 at 11:29:25 AM

You couldn't be more wrong

(derpy 4 life!)

The issue is that many people (myself included) didn't consider it to be an insult in the first place, or implying that she was disabled.

I think I saw the initial voice.

Nothing of value was lost, I can assure you.

lies

Truth!

From what I heard, the issue with the initial voice is that there was confusion about Derpy's gender, so they gave her a male voice.

Really I much prefer the version we got for Slice of Life.

Original actress thought she was auditioning for a male character.

Also, the dialogue and voice coming off as stereotypically “retarded”.

We actually talked about it here.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13791229970A85311100&page=7223#180571

So do I.

Edited by fredhot16 on Sep 2nd 2019 at 1:39:15 AM

What do you think about Snails? Should they change his voice?

Who?

Edited by fredhot16 on Sep 2nd 2019 at 3:28:50 AM

You know, the dopey-voiced boy unicorn who is on the Ponyville buckball team now.

Eh, not the same thing.

Edited by fredhot16 on Sep 2nd 2019 at 4:04:18 AM

Why? Goofy voice, weird behavior, called SNAILS.

Nobody, EVER, called Derpy such as an insult.

That's why derpygate happened. It was an overreaction on part of Hasbro.

Snips and Snails and puppy-dog tails.

Meanwhile, girls are made of sugar and spice and everything.

It’s why he’s called snails and hangs with a pony called Snips.

How is “Snails” more insulting?

Plus, "derpy" doesn't have a non-derogatory meaning (even if it's not being used as an insult for people with intellectual disabilities, it still refers to someone being goofy or making silly mistakes), whereas "snails" could refer to the animal. That, combined with the specific voice used in the initial airing of "The Last Round-Up", and also with Derpy's crossed eyes, is what led people to view her as being an insulting caricature of intellectual disability.

"Snails" could be possibly used as an insult towards someone, but that's not the only way the word could be used.

Edited by Rainbow on Sep 2nd 2019 at 6:53:16 AM

By the way, has anyone seen Gingerninja? He was supposed to submit his Round Robin chapter two days ago and he hasn't responded to my PM.

it still refers to someone being goofy or making silly mistakes), whereas "snails" could refer to the animal

What about Ditzy Doo then? That's a name the writers made up themselves, but "ditz" is always derogatory in that sense.

Edited by storyyeller on Sep 2nd 2019 at 8:02:44 AM

Meh, don't have any interest in seeing this conversation go any further. Dropping out.

She will always be Derpy to me.

Cool story, bro.

Yes, that one is an insult too, the main difference being that "derp" or "derpy" has been used to specifically mock people with intellectual disabilities (so far as I've read about it online), whereas "ditzy" refers to more general foolishness/forgetfulness (although that could still be seen as a reference to her mane color, since it's often used to describe Dumb Blonde characters). So that's probably why more people were offended by the name "Derpy" being used in the show rather than "Ditzy Doo".

Notably, at the time the big controversy over "The Last Round-Up", I remember at least one article that argued that the way the re-dubbed version took out some of Derpy's more obviously "disabled" traits (the edits didn't just change her voice, but uncrossed her eyes in at least some parts) resulted in less representation for disabled people, even if that representation was a caricature. That was of course before Scootaloo's inability to fly got confirmed, along with Tempest Shadow (broken horn) and Kerfluffle (prosthetic leg) appearing in notable roles as well as that one pony in a wheelchair from "Trade Ya".

Edited by Rainbow on Sep 2nd 2019 at 7:56:25 AM