Transformers IDW Discussion

On a related note to my earlier post, does anyone else think they dropped the ball when they tried to make the deceptions more sympathetic? They show the deceptions being marginalized after the war but the comics have shown that they've committed multiple horrendous crimes during the war (anti-personnel mines, grindcore prison, the multiple genocides) and even the nicer cons are still war criminals (for instance, Soundwave started a pogrom against neutral cybertonians) and try to show that the autobots weren't much better but what they've done pales compared to the atrocities the cons have done. And the deceptions still act like thugs after the war has ended, such as the riot they started when Megatron came back.

Edited by Kaiseror on Jan 3rd 2019 at 12:11:41 PM

I'm fine with nuance and depth for the Decepticons but I could do without the constant death and murder, and especially could do without the Evil Autobot Regime

Allspark made me really fall in love with the idea of the reboot being about heroic rebel Autobots fighting against a Decepticon Empire across the galaxy.

edited 26th May '18 3:03:32 PM by Mr.Badguy

In the Covenant of Primus novel, the autobots and decepticons both started out as groups who protested the chaste system and corrupt government, they could use that origin as it could keep both sides sympathetic and also highlight how Not So Different they are and it actually not be hollow.

Also in that book the wreckers were originally a group that predated the autobot faction and could be traced back to cybertrons tribal period before they assimilated into the autobots. I hope they use that origin for them.

The problem comes when the Decepticons placement as narrative antagonists compels them to genocide planets and build internment camps where robots are melted down and turned into munitions. You can't "both sides are the same" it when one side are basically robot nazis.

That's why i'm hoping that the decepticons are made legitimately sympathetic so that the Not So Different thing actually means something if they bring it up , which the current comic frequently (but unconvincingly) does.

End of the road...

I think one of the issues was that the war wound down at the same time a lot of the back story was being explored. So you had a lot of Decepticons being treated like dirt by the Autobots in one chapter while the next you saw the mistreatment that drove the Decepticon in the first place. That the Decepticons blew whatever moral grounds they might have stood on with countless years of every crime known to man is more lightly touched upon.

That last sentence sounds weird to me. It is touched upon and those moments are some of the ones I remember the most. Like when the Autobots give Tailgate a condensed version of the war to show him why being a Decepticon is bad. We don't actually see what they're showing him, but even with his vizor eyes and plated mouth we can tell he's horrified at what the Cons really are.

I've read issue 18 of Lost Light, one thing i'll say is if I were one of those autobots I would be pissed when I found out all the pain, death and betrayal was over an advanced goddamn suicide booth.

I didn't think reviving Tailgate would annoy me so much given he's my favourite.

RIP Nightbeat I guess

Issue #22 of lost light leaked early. it had a lot going on, and is a lot to take in

So what's going on here?

I'm still wondering what's going on with Prowl. Has he backslided again yet?

Hes teaming up with stardrive the cybertronian wraith hybrid who used to be a space knight and right now they joined with everyone else to stop unicron

So no backslide yet?

Good to hear.

...give it time.

there isnt time. the universe is ending in like two weeks. cybertrons gone. functionist cybertron is here but the lost light crew is too busy playing blackjack with hookers to help fight unicron

Anyone else get super emotional at Rodimus' speech last issue?

Even Team Whirl...

Edited by RodimusMinor on Oct 22nd 2018 at 11:56:30 AM

I've been thinking, is anyone else disappointed that Inhumanoids wasn't among all the other Hasbro comic revivals? With the reboot comic up lets hope they add them there.

Apparently the GI Joe subterranean monster plot was supposed to be the Inhumanoids, but they found out they didn't have the rights for them.

People are Celebrating Last Light's final issue with #WeAchievedSomething. James Robert is touched.

Well lost light is over. we got some depressing bad ends some good ends and a little spoiled on who survives unicron. overall I enjoyed it

Rodimus nooo

The last issue of Unicron hasn't come out yet but judging by the end of Lost Light, I'd say that Optimus and Bumblebee don't survive since I would imagine they'd defiantly be at Ratchet's funeral.

we know prowl and windblade survive at least, but yeah optimus probably bites it. I don't see Bee dying though, he literally just came back

I just realized something! What happened to all those matrixes Rung/Primus made?

they were used as bombs to blow up the hotspots and reboot cybertron.

also the last issue of unicron is out early.

Oh, they blew up? I totally missed that.