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Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#26226: Nov 20th 2022 at 5:56:53 PM

I feel like Loki (2021) sort of bucked the trend of "first gay whatever" being a sign of poor quality, though that's just because Marvel's different from Disney.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Nov 20th 2022 at 8:57:27 AM

It's been 3000 years…
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#26227: Nov 20th 2022 at 6:05:59 PM

Marvel had already been mocked earlier for its first gay character being nothing more than a glorified cameo. There’s, um, stuff I wouldn’t praise about Loki romantically but at least they didn’t hype up the bisexual moment beforehand to unreasonable publicity scales, and it’s actually to characters who have more than 20 seconds of screentime.

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#26228: Nov 20th 2022 at 6:10:53 PM

Oh right, Endgame was genuinely good too, for the most part.

It's been 3000 years…
gjjones Musician/Composer from South Wales, New York Since: Jul, 2016
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#26229: Nov 20th 2022 at 6:57:59 PM

So, according to this Deadline article, Bob Iger is coming back to replace Bob Chapek as Disney's CEO.

Edited by gjjones on Nov 20th 2022 at 9:59:17 AM

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#26230: Nov 20th 2022 at 7:02:15 PM

Everyone’s resigning this season, it’s lettuce’s dream come true

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#26231: Nov 20th 2022 at 7:06:53 PM

I'm getting conflicted reports on whether Chapek either resigned on his own volition, or if the Board forced him to do it.

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#26232: Nov 20th 2022 at 7:13:03 PM

[up] I suspect that the Board forced him to resign. They must have been quietly upset that Chapek was doing this much damage to the company.

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#26233: Nov 20th 2022 at 7:17:21 PM

Good riddance to Chapek. Iger's just going to end up running Disney until he's dead at this point, isn't he?

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#26234: Nov 20th 2022 at 7:21:01 PM

Welp that seems dramatic. I guess I'm not surprised at Chapek being outed, but it doesn't strike me as particularly good that they're bringing back Iger. Not that I dislike Iger but I find it a bit worrying that there aren't a lot of candidates who can take on the mantel of Disney CEO.

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#26235: Nov 20th 2022 at 7:21:09 PM

Finally! I'm expecting Iger to be more an interim CEO while they look for a new, more competent person.

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#26236: Nov 20th 2022 at 7:23:54 PM

I wonder what this means for Pixar going forward? Their status as Disney+ fodder (with Lightyear being the exception that proved the rule) was entirely Chapek's doing, so I can only imagine how Iger will treat them from here on out.

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#26237: Nov 20th 2022 at 7:37:20 PM

The Disney board’s statement says that they take responsibility for cutting Chapek, and that Iger’s term is for two years. So he eventually will retire again, but they’re waiting on a replacement.

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#26238: Nov 20th 2022 at 8:02:51 PM

So, why was Chapek bad again? I haven't been following Disney corporate politics lately.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#26239: Nov 20th 2022 at 8:09:13 PM

[up] Last I checked, part of the problem was that Chapek was kissing up to homophobe republicans. I think.

I still can't believe Iger is coming back for another two years. When I saw the news on Twitter, I immediately thought it was a joke. Apparently not so.

And I can't blame the board for pumping the brakes on Chapek. The guy got booed at D23 2022. If that wasn't a fleet of red flags doing the can-can, I don't know what is.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Nov 20th 2022 at 11:12:04 AM

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#26240: Nov 20th 2022 at 8:09:33 PM

Back when Chapek ran the Disney Parks he had a reputation for cutting corners, like when he gave Imagineers only 4 months to design and build a Guardians ride or when he blew a deal to get Harry Potter rides because he was just gonna build a laser shooter.

As CEO he was reputed with ticking off Scarlett Johansson over Black Widow’s release, sparking a walkout by Disney’s gay employees and allies over his standing by Florida GOP’s “Don’t Say Gay” law, and being “data driven” to the point of offending the company’s artists.

Iger’s no saint and has done plenty of shady junk in his own right, but he was very good at keeping the talent happy. Chapek, not so much.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Nov 20th 2022 at 8:15:47 AM

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#26241: Nov 20th 2022 at 8:14:10 PM

Defunctland does some feature length investigative journalism to find who originally created the Disney Channel theme.

Edited by tclittle on Nov 20th 2022 at 10:14:35 AM

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#26242: Nov 20th 2022 at 8:15:55 PM

or when he blew a deal to get Harry Potter rides because he was just gonna build a laser shooter.

...You mean to tell us we almost had The Wizarding World of Harry Potter in Disney theme parks? Like, for real?

Because if so, then man, what an idiot!

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#26243: Nov 20th 2022 at 8:24:53 PM

[up]Yep, that really happened. I mean I’m not gonna weep because JK Rowling is a transphobic nightmare, but it stands out how Disney parks were once the forefront of theme park innovation but under Chapek then Universal Harry Potter stole their thunder and they’ve been playing catch-up since.

This article is a year old but it sums up the differences between the two CEOs very well.

”In a world and business that is awash with data, it is tempting to use data to answer all of our questions, including creative questions,” [Iger] said. “I urge all of you not to do that.” If Disney had relied too heavily on data, he noted, the company might never have made big, breakthrough movies like Black Panther, Coco and Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings.

[…] Chapek was said to have followed Iger’s remarks by declaring in blunt terms that, in fact, Disney was now a data-driven company. It sent a chill through Hollywood. Sources who attended the meeting say Chapek did not make such a bald declaration. They say he was merely being himself: a numbers-oriented, bottom-line-focused businessman lacking creative experience and without Iger’s polish and flair.

Many Disney veterans and outside observers think the public fight with Johansson never would have happened on Iger’s watch, and even before that blew up, the feeling among many in Hollywood was that Chapek was using the pandemic as an excuse to throw movies onto Disney+, steamrolling talent in the process. “The thing about Hollywood is, you can behave badly, you can be rude, you can make duds, but the thing you cannot do is fuck with people’s money,” says a producer with business at Disney. “You just don’t do that and hide behind technology as the reason why.”

One Disney veteran — not a Chapek fan — compares a lunch with Iger to a lunch with Chapek. “A conversation with Iger was, ‘Where can I help you? Did you watch this new Icelandic thriller on Netflix? I just finished this book about Churchill.’ Bob Chapek is all about business. He sits at lunch, there is 60 seconds of small talk about his home in Key West, and then it’s all Bob sending messages about how things are going great. He is on-message.”

In a company as image-conscious as Disney, someone in charge who doesn’t know how to sweet-talk creatives and just makes them mad instead is steering the whole ship into rocks.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Nov 20th 2022 at 8:27:46 AM

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#26244: Nov 20th 2022 at 8:28:19 PM

Huh. When put that way it sounds fairly similar to what's happening over at WB.

Granted, WB's got it way worse, but still.

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#26245: Nov 20th 2022 at 8:30:20 PM

Yeah, Zaslav frankly makes Chapek look like a saint.

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#26246: Nov 20th 2022 at 8:33:31 PM

Yeah, at least Chapek wasn't trying to actively destroy the entire studio because he only knows how to work in reality TV.

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#26247: Nov 20th 2022 at 9:26:45 PM

They're both equally bad, just in different ways. It's like choosing between being lowered into an active volcano or being force to take a bath with live electric eels.

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#26248: Nov 20th 2022 at 10:17:47 PM

Go with the eels, you could get superpowers like electro.

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#26249: Nov 20th 2022 at 10:34:27 PM

What was the straw that broke the camel’s back here, do we think? Or is this just something that’s slowly been building and only showed results now?

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#26250: Nov 20th 2022 at 11:00:12 PM

The latest quarterly report was terrible.

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