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Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#59726: Jun 27th 2019 at 7:32:53 AM

[up] There is a franchise page for RWBY, so not everything goes on the main cartoon's page. Someone just has to make a page for the derivatives.

Slater130 Since: Jun, 2013
#59727: Jun 27th 2019 at 11:17:49 AM

Just give each kingdom is own page. It makes no sense to do it any other way, why by continent which isnt a actual affiliation and not by kingdom?

Making it more complicated for literally zero reason

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#59728: Jun 27th 2019 at 2:52:31 PM

Because not all locations are inside kingdoms and not all characters are based inside kingdoms. Several people suggested it should be a continent split instead of a kingdom split because listing people and locations who are not inside kingdoms on a Kingdoms page didn't make sense to them — the show's setting is wider in scope than just kingdoms.

I modelled the scenarios people gave me. I've asked you before if you have a scenario you'd like to have modelled so that people can have an input into whether they'd prefer it, but you never answered, so two scenarios is what we've got.

Do you want me to model a kingdom split and put it onto the sandbox as Scenario 3? Also, for people who have already stated their preferences based on the two existing scenarios, are you happy for me to model a third scenario, or should we just make a decision based on what we've got?

Edited by Wyldchyld on Jun 27th 2019 at 11:01:27 AM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Shaoken Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#59729: Jun 28th 2019 at 12:08:44 AM

I put my vote forward for option one with Sanus split, that seems like the neater way to split things and by basing it on continents you allow for a place where people who reside outside kingdoms can be neatly sorted.

TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#59730: Jun 28th 2019 at 11:51:39 AM

Volume 6 soundtrack's out. And yes, there are already songs being uploaded to youtube.

Tharkun140 The Arch-Douchebag Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Arch-Douchebag
#59731: Jun 28th 2019 at 12:00:12 PM

[up][up][up] Wouldn't the "Kingdoms Split" be just continent split with several characters separated for no reason? I'd advise you not to waste time doing another scenario and just go with what you have.

[up] Yeah, I saw them here. I don't care much about any of them save the One Thing, but I suppose I'm happy anyways.

Also, may I restate just how much more interesting Adam is when he's not whining about Blake and instead focuses on the cause he used to fight for? Because

Taunted and tortured
Insulted and reviled
Enthralled by human overlords
Since I was a child

Has a better ring to it than

I wouldn't have to be doing this if you just behaved!

It might be a while before I can truly comprehend what went through the writers' heads when they decided to make Adam into a psychotic ex-boyfriend.

Edited by Tharkun140 on Jun 28th 2019 at 9:01:19 PM

Apathy is Death. Worse than Death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds beasts and insects.
TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#59732: Jun 28th 2019 at 12:02:57 PM

Haven't heard them all yet, but One Thing is indeed kicking all kinds of ass. Indomitable dropped from my list, though. It's not a bad song, it's just not what I was expecting from it. Still, it's a really nice tribute.

Pichu-kun ... Since: Jan, 2001
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#59733: Jun 28th 2019 at 12:39:23 PM

It makes my week to hear the full version of "One Thing". I've been waiting months to hear more about Neo. The full version jossed by headcanon that Neo and Roman are biologically daughter and father. It was jossed with Word of God, but now it's really jossed... Oh well, they're adopted daughter and father to me.

The song also josses that Neo is from Brunswick Farms. I'm glad. I would have hated if that was her backstory... The "brand new name" lyric makes me wonder if Neo's name wasn't always that. Spoilering just in case there's a spoiler rule on the songs.

Edited by Pichu-kun on Jun 28th 2019 at 1:01:15 AM

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#59734: Jun 28th 2019 at 12:59:57 PM

Wouldn't the "Kingdoms Split" be just continent split with several characters separated for no reason?

Yes, that's exactly what it would be.


Okay, current tally on the Sandbox. Excuse the use of names. I'm not seeking to call anyone out, it's to make sure I don't miss anyone or count people twice.

I've also listed the question on the RWBY Characters Discussion Page for anyone who doesn't/can't use this forum.

Scenario:

  • One: Tharkun140, VeryMelon, Shaoken
  • Two:
  • Concerns: Fergard Stratoavis (About One)
  • Neither scenario: Slater130

Handling Sanus (if Scenario One is chosen):

  • Split: Tharkun140, gjjones, Shaoken
  • Combined:
  • Neutral: Fergard Stratoavis

Edited by Wyldchyld on Jun 28th 2019 at 9:28:03 AM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#59735: Jun 28th 2019 at 1:31:28 PM

So, the soundtrack is... there. Quick rundown of the songs by order of me listening to them:

  • One Thing is the best by a few dozen country miles. Rising is pretty good too.

  • Miracle and Nevermore are Butt Metal at it's buttiest. That's not a compliment.

  • Lionized's lyrics add a second dimension to Adam's character and that's a welcome bonus, but the song itself is kinda forgettable.

  • Forever Fall is a Pyrrha Sadness song. Nothing more interesting about it.

  • Indomitable... well, it's a Monty Memorial song, and it's fine for what it is, but I gotta be honest, I'm getting kinda tired of this trend in RWBY. Monty is dead, yes, and it's an incredibly sad thing, but the show could afford to move on at this point.

  • Oh, and there was also Big Metal Shoe, which features rapping this time. Once again, I forgot about it until I was finished writing, and that's going to be it's review.

The rest of the soundtrack is background music, and none of it is particularly interesting. The only surprise was the acustic version of Armed And Ready, which has no right to be as fun to listen to as it is.

Edited by TheLovecraftian on Jun 28th 2019 at 5:33:31 AM

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#59736: Jun 28th 2019 at 1:41:16 PM

[up][up]I'm casting my vote for scenario one, and that Sanus be split in two to minimize page consumption.

That being said, I also believe an addendum be made to it. With Vacuo on its own being limited to the Two Teams that took part in the Vytal Festival, and After the Fall giving it several new characters but solidifying both CFVY and SSSN going there now, I'd like to suggest CFVY be moved from Sanus Eastern to Sanus Western, and SSSN be moved from Anima to Sanus Western.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Jun 28th 2019 at 4:45:42 AM

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Tharkun140 The Arch-Douchebag Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Arch-Douchebag
#59737: Jun 28th 2019 at 2:11:10 PM

The rest of the soundtrack is background music, and none of it is particularly interesting.
I'd beg to differ, since Crumbling Cabal is rather epic. Then again, I migh be biased since I loved the scene it was used in.

That being said, I also believe an addendum be made to it. With Vacuo on its own being limited to the Two Teams that took part in the Vytal Festival, and After the Fall giving it several new characters but solidifying both CFVY and SSSN going there now, I'd like to suggest CFVY be moved from Sanus Eastern to Sanus Western, and SSSN be moved from Anima to Sanus Western.

I protest. Team CFVY and Team SSSN were introduced to the audience as the students of Beacon and Haven respectively and those affiliations are the main reason for their involvement in the story so far. Them currently presiding/heading to Vacuo is not a sufficient reason for them to be listed on that page. Team RWBY and JNPR pages were not reorganized the moment team RNJR got formed and Adam wasn't moved out of the White Fang page once he threw his mask away.

On a completely unrelated note, may we not use Brought Down to Badass trope in the character sheets? I saw it being listed under Ghira due to him losing aura in the fight against the Albains and I figured that if we are going to list this trope each time someone's aura breaks and they still fight we will eventually have every major fighter listed as such.

Apathy is Death. Worse than Death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds beasts and insects.
Shaoken Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#59738: Jun 28th 2019 at 3:07:59 PM

Yeah that is definite trope misuse. Following that logic anyone who gets hurt and can't go at 100% applies.

Kylotrope Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it) from Honolulu Hawaii Since: Apr, 2018
Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it)
#59739: Jun 28th 2019 at 3:47:43 PM

"Indomitable... well, it's a Monty Memorial song, and it's fine for what it is, but I gotta be honest, I'm getting kinda tired of this trend in RWBY. Monty is dead, yes, and it's an incredibly sad thing, but the show could afford to move on at this point."

No offense but telling people to move on from there friends death is a bit rude. Its not like there Constantly obsessing over it, its just that they like to Memorialize him. And Heck given all the Fans who like to say RT never cared about Monty...

Things are really about to get Fun around here
TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#59740: Jun 28th 2019 at 3:58:33 PM

That came across ruder than I intended. It just feels like RWBY can't move on from Monty. This song has every right to be there, especially considering how they used it in the actual show. But sometimes it feels like the show (not the company, mind; I'm not saying anything about RT this time around) can't grow past him to find it's own identity, and this being the second memorial song for Monty, alongside all the little nods they give at him all the time, kinda reinforced that feeling for me. I'm not saying the show shouldn't remember him, just that it could afford to move on and find it's own footing beyond that. It's been more than three years since his death, but the show feels like it hasn't recovered from it yet, and that's kinda holding it back. The unprompted memorial song just seemed like a good moment to make that point in my mind.

Edited by TheLovecraftian on Jun 28th 2019 at 7:59:19 AM

Kylotrope Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it) from Honolulu Hawaii Since: Apr, 2018
Barb(Its a thread joke you wouldn't get it)
#59741: Jun 28th 2019 at 11:34:59 PM

I see. Well that's understandable

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Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#59742: Jun 29th 2019 at 1:10:19 AM

Does Adam have a full song?

Mileena Madness
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#59743: Jun 29th 2019 at 1:24:23 AM

Yes he does. It's called Crawling. evil grin

In all seriousness, I don't think he does.

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
Tharkun140 The Arch-Douchebag Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Arch-Douchebag
#59744: Jun 29th 2019 at 1:34:31 AM

[up] I am confused as to what the joke is meant to be.

Apathy is Death. Worse than Death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds beasts and insects.
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#59745: Jun 29th 2019 at 1:47:18 AM

Crawling is a Linkin Park song that achieved a memetic status for being hilariously edge, even in the Linkin Park standards.

Basically, I was indulging in the old "Adam the Edgelord" joke. tongue

Oh, and as I was typing this post, I learned that the lead singer of the band committed suicide. Oh.

Edited by dRoy on Jun 29th 2019 at 5:48:55 PM

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#59746: Jun 29th 2019 at 3:10:14 AM

Isn't Lionized Adam's full song?

Tharkun140 The Arch-Douchebag Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
The Arch-Douchebag
#59747: Jun 29th 2019 at 3:23:48 AM

[up] Nah, it's actually a song for one of the White Fang mooks in the background of Adam's Character Short. You can tell it's not for Adam himself, because the singer doesn't whine about catgirls leaving him every other line and seems resolved to do something interesting with their life.

Edited by Tharkun140 on Jun 29th 2019 at 12:35:35 PM

Apathy is Death. Worse than Death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds beasts and insects.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#59748: Jun 29th 2019 at 3:27:06 AM

Cmon there are worse things to whine about.

Like if a bunny-girl left you, now that would be terrible. tongue

Shit someone should have told Adam "Don't fret mofucker, tons of girls out there. Most far superior to a mere catgirl."

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#59749: Jun 29th 2019 at 3:41:43 AM

Maybe he should've gotten a dog-girl this time around. At least they would (mostly) never leave you! evil grin[lol]

Edited by dRoy on Jun 29th 2019 at 7:42:18 PM

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
RedRob Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#59750: Jun 29th 2019 at 6:58:25 AM

Obviously he should have become an isekai protagonist, and gotten all the bitches /s.

On another note, found a video of someone comparing the first chapter of the manga to scenes from the show. Her conclusion was that both were fine, but the manga had stronger dialogue.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet Unless I grew it. In that case, throw it in the trash.

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