4 star review
. Apparently, Charlize Theron dominates this film.
Chris Stuckmann likes the movie, so much he is getting loud in the review!
edited 12th May '15 12:47:53 AM by YoKab
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I just looked up the wiki, and holy shit, 98% on Rotten Tomatoes? Damn, now I really need to see this.
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
Really excited about this movie.
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As a big Mad Max fan, I'm really pumped for this movie. The reviews make it sound fantastic.
The only slight concern I have is that Max seems like he's sidelined from what (spoiler-free things) I've read. After the first film, he does mostly act as a plot device to further the action and he helps along with other people's goals usually because he doesn't have a choice. But he was the focus character. I'm just hoping this isn't another Godzilla '14 (which I loved but is the closest comparison to this).
edited 13th May '15 2:23:52 PM by Kentok
You can get what you want and still not be very happy.
All right! Got a ticket for tomorrow!
i. hear. a. sound.
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......And?
And what?
Is there a problem with Charlize Theron's character being given a lot of focus?
Not per se, but having more focus than the title character? Yes. Making the whole thing about a band of Strong Independent Womyn on the run from the High Shitlord of a literal rape culture? Also a problem, if only because this was consistently sold as a Mad Max movie. If this was its own thing... I'd roll my eyes at its themes, but I wouldn't be grump enough to post about it.
To say nothing of how the whole thing is a complete waste of the Big Guy.
edited 13th May '15 10:18:02 PM by ElkhornTheDowntrodden
First of all, watch the movie first before being so judgemental about the whole thing. Second of all, there's nothing wrong with having like, very basic feminist themes being in a Mad Max movie.
like, gasp! Women that are rape victims running from their rapists because they don't want to be treated like shit! How terrible!
edited 13th May '15 10:24:09 PM by higherbrainpattern
Nothing I've seen in the reviews makes me think the feminism isn't going to be absolutely ham-fisted and embarrassing.
Do you think anyone who could conceivably need to be taught that human women are humans would be watching this movie? Do you honestly think that?
It brings to mind this comment I saw on the Agony Booth review of Spec Ops: The Line. Bolding mine:
It's like that one flash game, where you're given a sniper rifle and shown a guy tied to a post, and if you shoot him the game calls you a murderer and lectures you, and then makes a save onto your hard drive so that if you ever play the game again the guy is already dead.
The moral is: in the real world your actions have lasting consequences, and you can't take it back just because you realized you were wrong.
But hey, dumbass who made that game: WE ALL ALREADY KNOW THAT.
Seriously. 99.999% of human beings on the planet Earth already know that. Even toddlers know that. Even the crazy jerks on X Box Live screaming about n**gers and f**gots all totally know that. Hell, even the people who pull school shootings totally already know that the people they kill will stay dead - they just don't care.
There is no one out there, barring the extremely mentally ill, who will look at your message and say "wow, I didn't know that!" The filthy murderous masses who desperately need to hear your wisdom exist only in your own head, and all those people who play your game and praise its "strong moral message" aren't doing so because they learned something - they're doing so because they also imagine the world to be filled with psychopaths and terrorists, and their stupid withered brains imagine ludicrous scenarios of your pigfart message actually changing some imaginary person's life.
It's the same for all of those "moral lesson" flash games. It's the same for PETA's murder simulators. It's the same for Spec Ops: The Line.
edited 13th May '15 10:33:37 PM by ElkhornTheDowntrodden
Well, I'm glad you're angry/uncomfortable about very basic feminist themes being in a Mad Max movie, then.
I think I'll watch this movie like, 3 or 4 times now, actually.
You didn't answer my question.
There's nothing to answer? I mean, I'm suddenly very glad that a not-at-all-groundbreaking, feminist element being present in this movie makes you angry.
edited 13th May '15 10:48:12 PM by higherbrainpattern
How is there nothing to answer? It's a yes/no question.
edited 13th May '15 10:43:41 PM by ElkhornTheDowntrodden
Yes. People definitely need to taught that feminism isn't some Evil, Subversive Thing
edited 13th May '15 11:07:42 PM by higherbrainpattern
Darling.
Oh come on now. If the director wants to dedicate part of the plot to showing women rise above the genuinely crappy circumstances they are trapped in, why not? Why can't the film be a vehicle (heh) for that message?
I sort of get that you aren't a big fan of what you see as shoehorned social commentary, but there's no way to tell if it is shoehorned without seeing it. What if empowerment is simply the natural consequence of the storytelling? Character development and whatnot. It doesn't just have to be Max 24/7.
I mean, you're still getting 2 hours of car chases. I think you could tolerate a little message in there.
Indeed. Just because people on the internet are loud and obnoxious about a point of view (and to be fair, everyone is guilty of it to some degree) doesn't mean that the point of view is invalid.
edited 13th May '15 11:15:28 PM by edvedd
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It isn't evil, but subversive it is.
edited 14th May '15 12:54:01 AM by LordofLore
Wasn't Mad Max all about Max being awesome for the whole movie, while helping others he met who happen to a fair lot of focus?
Mad Max is an urban legend in the universe, it has always been like this since the second film. Every fan will probably know the structure by now:
- Max shows up, wandering the wasteland as usual.
- Max gets in trouble.
- Max meets other people.
- Other people receive Character Development.
- Max decides to help the people.
- People gets more Character Development and start acting.
- Max gets the villains rekt.
- Max leaves, wandering the wastelands as usual.
edited 14th May '15 1:10:23 AM by YoKab
Ok. I've been converted to the Dark Side. I'mma going to see this film this weekend.
If it's at the Imax in Glasgow* I'm going there, otherwise I'm not going to see it in 3D.
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Sweet. Imax it is. Nice central rear(ish) location. Bloody expensive ticket though.
edited 11th May '15 1:46:32 PM by TamH70