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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#5651: Nov 21st 2014 at 5:31:40 AM

You mean avoid dying coz another PW comes back in time to save him...

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#5654: Dec 3rd 2014 at 6:54:47 PM

Either my eyes are going or i can't find a good enough quality image, who's the artist credit on Mishra's Toy Workshop?

Funden u wot m8 from the maintenance tunnels Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: It's complicated
u wot m8
#5655: Dec 6th 2014 at 9:43:52 PM

So, this is my prediction for Fate Reforged: the clans each stop being wedges (obviously) and focus on one color, with some hybrid in between to keep the "wedge" theme going.

  • Abzan is the White clan
  • Jeskai is the Blue clan
  • Sultai is the Black clan
  • Mardu is the Red clan
  • Temur is the Green clan

This way, instead of focusing on an allied color pair and how it plays with its enemies, it focuses on a single color and how it can be influenced by its enemies.

I then predict that Dragons of Tarkir will have the clans settle back into their allied color pair, without the enemy color with them.

  • Abzan = GW
  • Jeskai = WU
  • Sultai = UB
  • Mardu = BR
  • Temur = RG

This is based on the fact that the dragon in the art of Dig Through Time is specified in the artist prompt to be UB:

We see just a hint of a UB dragon's silhouette emerging from a storm in the surface of the water.

As this is a Sultai spell, it makes me think that Sultai will become UB. With that settled, it becomes obvious where the other clans will end up.

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#5656: Dec 6th 2014 at 9:52:29 PM

I'm not sure what the point of making the clans allied-colored pairing would be when they already have an entire Plane dedicated to two-color pairings.

What you're suggesting would make Tarkir near-redundant as long as Ravnica is still around, but it would be worse for Tarkir because Ravnica covers the entire 10-pair lineup.

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#5657: Dec 7th 2014 at 12:53:18 AM

Plus, the one card we've seen spoiled that's got a heavy clan identity is green with red/blue hybrid mana.

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2Zak Claw of the Dragon from the northern frontier Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Claw of the Dragon
#5658: Dec 7th 2014 at 3:31:14 AM

I think they even said Fate and Dragons won't be multicolor sets (maybe I'm making this up?)

Not that I wouldn't like to play Gruul. But I don't think they will go back to multicolor. Probably mono+hybrid, as Yasova implies. Multicolor Dragons (not wedge-colored, as Maro said there are no wedges in Fate or Dragons) would probably work though.

edited 7th Dec '14 4:27:21 AM by 2Zak

They call it the Rumour Mill because every time one specific guy posts I definitely feel cards going from my library to my graveyard
ImperialSunlight A Practical Observer from Tolaria West Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
A Practical Observer
#5659: Dec 7th 2014 at 8:04:31 AM

Yeah, I'm thinking the clans will settle into one color identity. Though I think it'd be more interesting to switch them to enemy colors, because the clans would change more noticeably:

Abzan = Black
Jeskai = Red
Sultai = Green
Mardu = White
Temur = Blue

But they'll probably just go with the main colors of each clan.

edited 7th Dec '14 8:04:41 AM by ImperialSunlight

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#5660: Dec 7th 2014 at 9:27:55 AM

Announcing Modern Masters 2015 Edition!

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MiVaTh Mi Va Th from Netherlands Since: Nov, 2010
#5661: Dec 7th 2014 at 10:39:04 AM

Always wanted to play/own more of Zendikar! Looks fun!

Funden u wot m8 from the maintenance tunnels Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#5662: Dec 7th 2014 at 12:27:55 PM

Dat $10 MSRP tho. I'm tempted to just draft this instead of actually buying any.

2Zak Claw of the Dragon from the northern frontier Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Claw of the Dragon
#5663: Dec 7th 2014 at 6:23:13 PM

Well, there's a foil in every pack. Totally not a marketing strategy to make us think 10$ a pack is worth it.

They call it the Rumour Mill because every time one specific guy posts I definitely feel cards going from my library to my graveyard
TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#5664: Dec 7th 2014 at 6:46:41 PM

It seems they're well aware they can get away with it because if it's anything like Modern Masters, those packs are going to have cards that are going to be worth quite a bit to the hard-core Modern crowd.

edited 7th Dec '14 6:47:05 PM by TheSpaceJawa

2Zak Claw of the Dragon from the northern frontier Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Claw of the Dragon
#5665: Dec 7th 2014 at 6:57:22 PM

They could make us sign a mortgage loan to get the boosters and they would get away with it.

People would complain the contract was printed on the wrong side of the paper, though.

They call it the Rumour Mill because every time one specific guy posts I definitely feel cards going from my library to my graveyard
MiVaTh Mi Va Th from Netherlands Since: Nov, 2010
#5666: Dec 10th 2014 at 7:48:53 AM

Anyone else catch Maro's comment on the full art lands in an upcoming block here? I'd want a bunch.

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#5667: Dec 10th 2014 at 9:00:42 PM

[up] As I'm sure just about every other player does.

ImperialSunlight A Practical Observer from Tolaria West Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
A Practical Observer
#5668: Dec 16th 2014 at 5:57:22 PM

Valorous Stance

Looks quite good. Also feels like this is pointing to a "choice" theme in Fate Reforged.

edited 16th Dec '14 6:02:25 PM by ImperialSunlight

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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#5669: Dec 16th 2014 at 6:33:42 PM

Oh my, I can see many "choice" cards finding a place in my EDH decks.

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#5670: Dec 16th 2014 at 6:37:06 PM

It does look good. It also looks like it's going to be a massive pain in my ass.

Funden u wot m8 from the maintenance tunnels Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: It's complicated
u wot m8
#5671: Dec 16th 2014 at 7:06:04 PM

Kills Rhino and Polukranos, not bad. Unfortunately can't touch Stormbreath or Pearl Lake Ancient.

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#5672: Dec 16th 2014 at 8:17:32 PM

Unfortunately can't touch Stormbreath or Pearl Lake Ancient

That sounds very much like the "dies to Doom Blade" argument. tongue

Funden u wot m8 from the maintenance tunnels Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#5673: Dec 16th 2014 at 8:25:08 PM

I'm just noting that it doesn't kill two of the four most powerful creatures out there. Ajani's Vengeance gives indestructable and +1/+1 for less, and Glare of Heresy exiles AND can hit Elspeth. IMO it doesn't stand up to the current cards and will maybe be sideboard material or find a slot in UW Heroic.

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#5674: Dec 16th 2014 at 8:41:00 PM

Yeah, maybe so, but you're overlooking how this is basically two cards in one.

It's practically a split card, when you think about it.

Funden u wot m8 from the maintenance tunnels Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: It's complicated
u wot m8
#5675: Dec 16th 2014 at 8:57:34 PM

The problem is that the Charms are better for options, while the other two that I mentioned are more efficient manawise. It just doesn't seem to want to fit anywhere in the current decks.

Edit: I'm actually reconsidering this. I forgot that it hits Butcher of the Horde, Doomwake Giant and Courser. That's some value.

edited 16th Dec '14 9:33:59 PM by Funden


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