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How exactly are the dating sim elements? Because that shit sounds hilarious.

Apparently, you can hot tub with Captain Marvel according to Charles.

I demand we go clubbing with Venom.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 29th 2024 at 11:55:34 PM

The romance stuff did get cut out so there isn't anything explicitly romantic, so the relationship values are firmly close friendships that feels romantic.

Which feature a lot of book reading, playing video games, stargazing, etc with characters to raise their relationship values.

The friendship scenes with Venom

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 29th 2024 at 9:00:56 AM

Unironically wholesome.

Some good moments, this scene specifically talking bout why Eddie hates Spidey.

Of course it has a lot of problems with MCU speak. I am not a fan of Iron Man's voice cause he is an endless chatterbox constantly cracking jokes and lines, and never shutting up.

Along with the problem that Josh Keaton is trying to force an RDJ impression which obviously doesn't good.

They cast Spider-Man to be Iron Man?

The prophecy is fulfilled

Yeah, Josh Keaton also played Stark in the VR Iron Man game.

That was unironically pretty fun.

The idea of a Marvel dating sim is unironically really appealing to me. Both in general good potential for a dating sim and because if they had fun with it they could go REALLY insane.

Imagine a route where you romance Gali and then have to fight Galactus to get his permission to marry her.

Or romancing Spider-Man and trying to get married before Editorial I mean Mephisto can ruin the fun.

I would unironically try to date Magik just for shits and giggles, it would be hell of a time.

That is kind of the gist of Rainbow's run on the Runaways. Nico and Chase end up getting crummy jobs and becoming legal guardians and dealing with being forced to assimilate into society a little bit, while their other friends, who are still running from growing up, struggle with that. Especially Gert who time skips the 3 in universe years between publication due to time travel.

Edit, oh the page was cashed from yesterday, this reply is waaay out of date.

Edited by Whowho on Mar 30th 2024 at 2:03:16 AM

It's made even worse because they still have to deal with the legacy of their parents in that run too. Not to mention their traitorous ex-leader coming back from the dead.

Things just kept getting worse and worse for them in that run. By the time it ended Gert from the future had to take Chase away with her to keep him from going full supervillain due to all of the shit life kept throwing at them all.

Time skips in one corner of the Marvel Universe gets weird when some parts aren't affected.

Haven't read much Runaways but them eventually having to deal with being the adults and seeing how it is to be on the other side do seem like the logical conclusion and a interesting idea.

Speaking of Marvel dating Sims I had a conversation a few weeks back where we joked that about it wouldn't take much tweaking to make a Spiderman Dating Sim in a adaptation. He already have the relatable average guy protagonist, enough characters that could be romance options with few adjustments.
Obviously Joe Quest... Mephisto would be the final obstacle.

An odd take about Rainbow Rowell's Runaways (or RRR, for those in the know). People talk about men who can't write women, but RR might be a rare case of the opposite. Every male character comes across as just a romance interest. (because that's her background, in women-centric romance novels). The way Victor processes his grief from Vision strikes be as totally inauthentic.

This works in favour in her She-Hulk, btw, where it is a romance novel. He's a friggen poetry major! How more schmaltzy and tender can you get.

Edited by raykoda16 on Mar 30th 2024 at 7:41:10 AM

Spider-Man dating sim where MJ and Felicia are the obvious options for dating, but the real Golden Ending comes from romancing Venom.

Women who can't write men are just as common as men who can't write women, they just usually don't get shat on for it like the latter do. And in either case, I find that "can't write the opposite gender" is a much rarer phenomena than people tend to imply. Usually a writer who's bad at writing one gender is just a bad writer all around.

Edited by immortaleditor on Mar 30th 2024 at 7:44:24 AM

Re: Runaways

Their trajectory kinda made sense, though I think the most logical outcome for them in their current state would be wanderers, drifters, ditherers. Wandering the earth and doing some good, but also struggling to survive as they burned any form of support out of their childhood trauma of finding their parents were supervillains. If society is ran by adults then perhaps their only path is to live outside of it.

The stupider option, but no less interesting, would be to try making a clandestine organization of children a la Kids Next Door...and then show the pitfalls of that. It will have them come off a hypocrites at best, thought.

Meanwhile if Hickman and his crew wants to, they could do an "Ultimate Runaways" thing where they can play with the story without having the 616 baggage and maybe have the kids come to terms with their childhood trauma and come out less beleigerent to the idea of adulthood at the end.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Mar 30th 2024 at 11:30:20 AM

I kinda like an idea of the Runaways growing up to be a second Pride because of their maladjustment and refusal to grow out of it, than finding themselves abusing their children in the same way their parents did. Maybe as a AU though, not for 616 proper.

That would make a great Alternate Timeline where either they travel to it, and their alternate selves come back to their own past.

Maybe add in Gert freaking out because she flat out rejected her future of becoming a hero when said future self came back in time to warn them about Victor, and now she sees what that rejection entails.

It honestly would be nice to see some adults be allowed to not play down to the Runaways expectations.

Hank Pym managed to do it, but he's been dead for a while. And it seems every other hero only exists to further enforce the kid's negative opinion.

Very often being written out of character for that to be the case

Well, Spider-Man wasn't during the brief time they met him, but Gert did basically shit on his philosophy (and ideally, insulted Uncle Ben too). Peter took it in stride, but they really never gave him a fair chance since Nico put him to sleep first chance she got.

Peter as he is now...would probably shit the bed so hard they'd respect him even less considering how much he barely resembles his proper self in the current comics.

What does Gert say there?

Yeah, I admit, one thing that's always annoyed me about Runaways is how for the premise to work, any character 18 and over has to be either a psychotic scumbag or an incompetent moron to justify the gang never settling down or anything like that. It goes hard into the worst kind of Superman Stays Out of Gotham stuff when it comes to superheroes as a result, as we get stuff like the Avengers or X-Men just not doing any of the stuff they'd do in literally any other situation like this, or the Runaways for some reason never going to any superheroes about the Pride. And it'd be one thing if things were kept very secluded to California with all the established characters far away, but throughout they're stories, they keep running into established heroes who would curb-stomp the Pride with laughable ease.

That being said, I will admit I actually really appreciated the scene mentions of Gert insulting Spider-Man's general attitude to life and Uncle Ben by extension, mostly just because Ben gets put on such a pedestal all the time and his attitudes unquestioned that it's nice to see Spidey actually be challenged to justify the way he lives his life or Ben be shown to have human flaws - even if that's not where the scene ultimately went.

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Really? That's inane! Most people in life don't have great power, and the few that do are almost never responsible with it. The people who have the greatest responsibility are the kids with no power, because we're the ones who have to keep everyone else in check.

Depending on where you stand, you either think she might be on something, or think she's wrong. I would also note that technically, everyone has some power. It may not always be obvious sometimes. Hell, her talk about kids being the ones to keep others in check....that's kinda a form of power they choose to exert, isn't it?

It's just a semantic argument based on different definitions of the word "responsibility". Sometimes "responsibility" refers to what a person's obligations are (i.e. "if you adopt a pet, keeping it fed is your responsibility") - other times, "responsibility" refers to the quality of a person who fulfills their obligations, or "behaves responsibly" (i.e. "in taking care of that pet, you showed a lot of responsibility").

Gert's using the second definition of "responsibility", while Spider-Man's motto has always been about the first definition.

Thought Spider-Man’s appearance in Runaways also put him in the wannabe-cool uncle role, nice contrast to his tendency to be featured as one of the younger characters among the long-established teams.

I would say that's Gert being negative for the sake of being negative.

She completely misses the point of the saying, that you are supposed to be responsible with the power you have, of which she then twists into thr typical Runaways mindset "Us kids are better than you adults".

She's clearly not arguing in good faith here.