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HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
Oct 10th 2018 at 9:03:32 PM

Though looking at it, the Warriors had a few mutants at different times in their run.

I'm not sure if Vance was a mutant or not, but Angelica was one obviously, and Nita was both an atlantean and a Mutant (since Namor is now acknowledged as one, she's arguably the same).

Microbe was one as well I believe.

Outside of the Avengers, they are probably the only non X-Men group to have notable mutant members.

Once again, wokka wokka!
Oct 10th 2018 at 9:30:04 PM

Vance, Angelica, Microbe, and Nita were all mutants. IIRC, Vance was put on trial for accidentally killing his dad because his dad kept beating him for being one and then Vance finally lashed out.

That was quite a good arc in the series; and even went deeper when Vance went back in the past and saw his dad was a closested gay man whiched explained a lot.

Anyhoo, IIRC last New Warriors arc had a human (Sun Girl), mutant (Justice), superhuman (Speedball), cosmic hero (Nova Sam), Inhuman (Haechi), Atlantean (Water Snake), clone (Kaine), and demigod (Archely). I suppose to expand, you can add an Asguardian and just one alien to rep them all, those does Thor count as an alien?

Oct 11th 2018 at 4:21:49 PM

And dick, dark hawk and au Phylla are confirmed for gotg

TheEvilDrBolty Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Oct 11th 2018 at 6:08:02 PM

So...I'm making my way through Gruenwald's Captain America, just finished up the "The Captain" arc...and I have to ask - how exactly did D-Man become a joke in the way he did? I can see how he would have been a significant Scrappy (although Nomad is far more insufferable), but...after reading the original run where he was a doof who'd bitten off more than he could chew, I am really confused as to how he became quite as much of a joke in later appearances. Is it that his most memorable appearance was the joking about his smell in Busiek Avengers? Is it that Brian Bendis in particular seemed to despise the character?

Basically...did people hate on D-Man, call him the worst, and think of him as a joke before Busiek and Bendis made a laugh at him? Does he just seem less annoying to me because I expected him to be more hateable?

Edited by TheEvilDrBolty on Oct 11th 2018 at 9:12:32 AM

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Relationship Status: Brony
Oct 11th 2018 at 6:30:02 PM

[up] I'd say Busiek did it. Bit of a spoiler here, but: Eventually, in Gruenwald's run, D-Man leaves Cap in order to protect a community of homeless people. He didn't appear much after that, a couple appearances here and there but nothing notable. Then Busiek came along with a hugely popular and influential Avengers run, and threw in a couple jokes about D-Man (though, to Busiek's credit, he also made clear that D-Man was a genuinely good guy, and had both Cap and Jarvis be respectful). Then he went back into limbo until Bendis threw him in for, again, a silly gag, one among a bunch of other minor characters appearing for the gag. A pretty funny one, honestly.

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Oct 11th 2018 at 7:32:22 PM

Bendis wrote the character weird, sometimes he was normal but pathetic, while other times he was a blathering, filth-covered psychotic who was convinced that he was the avatar of cosmic entities that wanted him to get the Infinity Gems.

Then Brubaker had him be brainwashed into becoming the new Scourge and Sharon blew his brains out.

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HamburgerTime All things pure and good. from Garamsythe Sewer Relationship Status: I know
All things pure and good.
Oct 11th 2018 at 7:40:21 PM

And then he got perhaps the most hilarious resurrection in comics history: a teenager tried to summon a demon, but didn't enunciate well enough and got D-Man instead.

There's nothing that needs mending/Just follow my words, they will lead you to the ending.
Oct 12th 2018 at 2:49:12 PM

Since Marvel can't go too long without making a really unpopular decision, they fired Chuck Wendig.

Oct 12th 2018 at 6:24:31 PM

Ok so previews of the new captain marvel issue are out carols mom is a kree called mari-ell and carols kree name is car-ell

slimcoder Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armage
Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armage
Oct 12th 2018 at 6:25:28 PM

Is it wrong for me to think her & Superman are related? tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 12th 2018 at 6:25:38 AM

Oct 12th 2018 at 10:25:29 PM

Still not sure how I feel about Kree Carol. I suppose it doesn't change much about her run up until now but I'm just kinda overwhelmed about the many, many "new directions" the character has been through since 2012 and then when they find one that sticks, they switch it again. The movie is probably guaranteed to bring in new fans so maybe this one will stay for a bit.

GmCommand Relationship Status: In another castle
Oct 13th 2018 at 8:24:22 PM

I'm probably in the minority but I'm ok with the reveal that Carol has always been half-Kree

Edited by GmCommand on Oct 13th 2018 at 8:26:43 AM

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Relationship Status: Brony
Oct 13th 2018 at 9:03:16 PM

[up] *angrily slams fist on table* I have no strong feelings about it one way or the other!

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Shaoken Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
Oct 13th 2018 at 9:12:59 PM

So I have come to the conclusion that comic writers just can not stop trying to reinvent characters or reveal some new twist and completely changes their origins rather than focus on the future.

slimcoder Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armage
Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armage
Oct 13th 2018 at 9:14:32 PM

An issue I have is that they couldn't give her a better name.

Oct 13th 2018 at 11:30:54 PM

I would appreciate it better if they weren't blatant movie tie-ins. Again, you think Wanda and Pietro stopped being Mag's kids because some writer had a good idea?

Shaoken Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
Oct 14th 2018 at 1:39:22 AM

Yeah, that is the biggest reason why I want that retcon undone, because it was done for the most petty and spiteful reasons to begin with and I hate that kind of writing.

Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor
The Mad Doctor
Oct 14th 2018 at 2:34:44 PM

The Maximoff retcon also makes House of M and Avengers Disassembled stupid. Wanda got possessed and went on a crazy rampage and undid mutant kind all for nothing? What in the actual Mephisto's Realm?

Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Oct 14th 2018 at 3:27:58 PM

No they were already stupid on the face of things

This doesnít make them more stupid because thatís not even possible

Edited by Bocaj on Oct 14th 2018 at 6:28:09 AM

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Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor
The Mad Doctor
Oct 14th 2018 at 5:31:20 PM

Out of universe, they were already dumb. In universe, it was their friend and family going mad as a hatter over grief and wiped out mutant kind to spite her father and family. Now, it's just Wanda being dumber than the dumb (really, trusting Doom?) and crazy she was already in.

slimcoder Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armage
Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armage
Oct 14th 2018 at 5:34:52 PM

So what your getting at is it goes from not making any sense to literally having no sense at all.

Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Oct 14th 2018 at 5:43:05 PM

The grief didn't make any sense because there was already a storyline where Wanda came to terms with losing her fake demon babies.

And then she just gets amnesia off-panel so she can remember them again and flip out again.

Nothing about Avengers Disassembled was good.

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slimcoder Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armage
Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armage
Oct 14th 2018 at 5:44:19 PM

None of it ever made sense in the end then.

HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
Oct 14th 2018 at 5:55:44 PM

Why hasn't anyone said I BLAME BENDIS!!!! yet.

I mean, I don't hate him, but that entire thing is his fault.

Once again, wokka wokka!

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