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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#6676: Jun 7th 2022 at 6:32:30 PM

Batman: Killing Time really isn't anything new or special (there's a lot of faffing about in timelines that doesn't become clear for issues and far too much of King's needlessly specific narration) but the art is very good.

And, as much as he reeks of Awesome New Character syndrome, I really like The Help. He's the ultimate henchman, which means of course he can fight Batman one on one and win, but he's so old-fashioned I like him simply for his style-he's essentially an evil Alfred, with his "costume" simply being white tie evening dress. He carries a sword-cane that is also a gun-cane and uses words like "Donnybrook" and "Proustian", and claims/looks to be around 100 years old.

He's the kind of villain only a pretentious writer with a history degree could make, and being most of that myself, I do enjoy the work King has put into him.

Which means I also expect him to be dead by the end of the story

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#6677: Jun 7th 2022 at 6:59:14 PM

The Help's shtick of namedropping reminds me of Vandal Savage and how he was every bad guy in history at the same time.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#6678: Jun 7th 2022 at 7:11:54 PM

[up][up]I did like ras tell him that he has no actual drive of his own and thats why bruce is his favored heir now

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#6679: Jun 7th 2022 at 8:39:38 PM

[up][up]Most of the time. While Vandal does Obviously Evil historical acts like be Hitler's advisor or be Vlad the Impaler, he also has aided figures like Napoleon and been figures like Julius Caesar. They're still conquerors and complex figures, but he's not always being/aiding the Villain by Default of history

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#6680: Jun 7th 2022 at 10:04:17 PM

Ra's Al Ghul let his own daughter and her family be tortured in a concentration camp so he could keep Hitler's support.

Yeah he's a shitty dad.

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#6681: Jun 8th 2022 at 6:36:53 PM

Piggybacking on Hitler is such a cliche thing for immortal supervillains to do. Can't they help out a historical villain that isn't Obviously Evil in real life like the British Empire

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#6682: Jun 10th 2022 at 12:19:55 PM

DC Pride: Tim Drake

The one new story sees Tim being encouraged to talk things over with Stephanie.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#6683: Jun 10th 2022 at 12:26:39 PM

Okay finally he's gonna talk with Steph.

The fact he hasn't talked with Steph at all and just broke up with her offscreen despite being the most important relationship in his life has been the most criticized part of Tim's new thing.

If Tim's supposed to be bisexual they have to acknowledge that his primary relationship was with a woman.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#6684: Jun 11th 2022 at 5:29:04 AM

The fact he hasn't talked with Steph at all and just broke up with her offscreen despite being the most important relationship in his life has been the most criticized part of Tim's new thing.

If Tim's supposed to be bisexual they have to acknowledge that his primary relationship was with a woman.

Exactly.

A lot of readers grew up on the Tim/Steph ship, so DC just ignoring it (until now) for the Tim/Bernard ship comes off as very tone-deaf.

Regardless, I can't imagine Steph will take the ghosting rather well. (Might she punch Tim about it?)

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#6685: Jun 11th 2022 at 8:56:40 AM

Spoilers for Selina's book

So they're moving ahead with Selina and Valmont as a couple for now. Kind of figured this was happening what with the push for Bruce and Talia again in Shadow War. Frankly I'm relieved. Clean break from King's legacy and an opportunity to rebuild it later, once people actually begin to root for them again

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#6686: Jun 11th 2022 at 9:41:48 AM

Who is Valmont?

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#6687: Jun 11th 2022 at 9:42:49 AM

Some guy Jackie Chan fought in a cartoon.

Edited by Blueace on Jun 11th 2022 at 12:48:27 PM

Wake me up at your own risk.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#6688: Jun 11th 2022 at 10:22:29 AM

[up][up] I think it’s the Ghost-Maker looking motherfucker recently introduced in the Catwoman book.

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#6689: Jun 11th 2022 at 10:27:03 AM

Well the fact that there's already a Ghost-Maker lookalike is morbidly hilarious. Still, I would like to see Talia and Bruce again if only for something to wash away what King did to the Bat Cat ship.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#6690: Jun 11th 2022 at 10:29:37 AM

Admitably I’m kinda against Talia after how much of an absolute psychopath she’s become especially after all the bullshit in Shadow War.

Say what you will about Selina but Talia is a capital B word.

Bats needs a relationship with someone who isn’t toxic as hell and a mass murderer at that.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#6691: Jun 11th 2022 at 10:43:29 AM

Time to get a love interest from the storage room or something?

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#6692: Jun 11th 2022 at 12:01:52 PM

But if he had a healthy relationship, he might genuinely be happy, and that'd ruin everything...tongue

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#6693: Jun 12th 2022 at 1:41:48 AM

[up] Uggghhhhhh.

[up][up][up] Zatanna is my pick.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#6694: Jun 12th 2022 at 2:13:58 AM

[up] Two words: Identity Crisis.

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#6695: Jun 12th 2022 at 2:31:11 AM

Meh, they worked past it that story where they fought the Joker together.

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Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#6696: Jun 13th 2022 at 11:11:52 PM

Stephanie Is totally OK with Bernard and even hugs him. Tim says she's everything he's ever wanted, it's just he wants to find that in boys now

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#6697: Jun 13th 2022 at 11:43:11 PM

So is Stephanie free to hook up with Cassandra now?

Come to think of it, where do Stephanie and Cassandra stay in their civilian identities?

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#6698: Jun 14th 2022 at 12:07:16 AM

They live with Barbara in a converted warehouse/loft.

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#6699: Jun 14th 2022 at 12:16:27 AM

Historians: So Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown were roommates.

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#6700: Jun 15th 2022 at 12:52:20 AM

Speaking of Batgirls, their first arc wrapped up recently, and it's pretty good-though the art style might rub some people the wrong way. Said art style radically changes after that with a new artist, so who knows?

I saw someone complaining about Seer (the sort of anti-Oracle who forced the Batgirls to go low-tech for a while) because she's clearly not a physical threat. And personally I think that's a good thing. It's nice to have a villain who is just a world-class super hacker. She doesn't also need to know ten unarmed fighting styles or have the metahuman ability to shoot lightning or throw fireballs or manipulate cityscapes. That sort of thing starts becoming a hat on a hat.


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